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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:50 am 
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And on that note, Gregory shall be rejoining us after the 2nd of May.
With compliments from the moderation.


sorry i just did my happy, happy, joy, joy dance(trust me you don't want to see it). i know a little late, but i was enjoying the peace and quiet.

now for what i actually came here for. it is actually 2 items.

the 1st 1 i asked about awhile back. check boxes for selecting multiple items on a shelf tab for moving or copying instead of having to do it item by item by righclicking. hp;ding the mouse button then dragging to the folder you want to copyto/moveto.

the 2nd 1 is more for windy. when you finally implement your version of a stacks folder is is possible to set it up to open all items in the folder with say a rightclick menu option?



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last post addendum.

3. a fix for the rightclick copyto / moveto. and before someone says it it is not a windows problem. over the years i have tested out pretty much every program that either replaces explore or rides on top of explorer as a docking system, and winstep is the only one that has this problem.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 Winstep Wishes
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:14 pm 
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I would like to add my vote for this "Windows Preview" suggestion. It would save a lot of real-estate on my dock if I didn't have to have one icon for launching a program and another for viewing it.

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1. Is there a way to show Windows Preview Thumbnais on mouseover for the current dock items (Nexus) when available, like when the "Show running applications" option is checked?

Say i have "pinned" firefox to the dock. When FF is running it will have the indicator, and if i hover the mouse over the icon, it will show its corresponding windows (say main window, and downloads window).
And say i have spotify also "pinned". When it is running on background (aka went to tray/ no visible window), it will only show the indicator but NOT the Preview Thumbnail.

2. Is there a way to add middle click option to close any "pinned" application. Same way the "Task List Actions" work with middle click. Say i want to close FF directly from dock without going through menus or opening the window.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:10 pm 
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I'd be okey with only a better support for vertical taskbar. Most of nowadays monitors are 16:9, so vertical taskbars (pretty much like Ubuntu 14, with Unity desktop environment) leave more workspace and are more confortable to work with.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:34 am 
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Hello!

This software really gets better and better :) Good work!
One wish: you really should add option to pin a website app shortcut (those created by Google Chrome and Internet Explorer), to dock. Currently, it is immpossible to do, it just puts question mark to dock and not work. It would be very handy (I use a workaround to get same effect, but it would be better if it just supported it instantly). Also, it is impossible to pin WIndows 8 modern apps - at least for me... It would be useful so I can use some of them, but with custom icons, and stop blinding my eyes with those damn tiles... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:20 am 
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Alright, my first official beg list for winstep version 14!

Take a look at this awesome taskbar concept: http://eiskis.net/windows9/

Using winstep, I can almost get something similar.

Ideally though, the things I want are:

  • 1:The option Merging Pinned shortcuts with the running tasks - This way we get functionality closer to the windows superbar, which works great.
  • 2: More detailed running indicators - Active, Minimized, Inactive - please! I personally would love this so so much.
  • 3: The option Merging system tray with running tasks - because we can customize the tray icons, this just makes sense - having system tray separate to taskbar is a windows throwback, and with all the awesome customization available with Nexus, I think this would be an awesome customization option

Now, because I have been waiting for a long time for a system that can do this - I will tip george a small bounty to implement it, now that he is back!

Please? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:45 pm 
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1) Sub-docks
1.1) Size-position: Not very useful as a "long" list of icons, useful only when the list is small. It should have the option to be a matrix of n rows by m columns, or auto-sizable, scrollable when applicable.
1.2) The list of items should be auto-arranged (by name, etc.) or user defined (drag-n-drop to rearrange position)
1.3) Folders and shortcuts: A sub-dock can be "dynamically" linked to a folder and "dynamically" display items from that folder as items of the sub-dock. If contents in the folder change, contents in the dock should also change. This would be VERY useful.


2) Folder management (a MUST if option 1.3 can not be implemented)
2.1) "Always open folders as menu" should be customizable - global or for each folder
2.2) Expand the option "Always open folders as menu" with additional options, like explorer does: Appearance (size of icons) and text (show/hide)


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:30 pm 
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marma wrote:
1) Sub-docks
1.1) Size-position: Not very useful as a "long" list of icons, useful only when the list is small. It should have the option to be a matrix of n rows by m columns, or auto-sizable, scrollable when applicable.
1.2) The list of items should be auto-arranged (by name, etc.) or user defined (drag-n-drop to rearrange position)
1.3) Folders and shortcuts: A sub-dock can be "dynamically" linked to a folder and "dynamically" display items from that folder as items of the sub-dock. If contents in the folder change, contents in the dock should also change. This would be VERY useful.


I think you're missing the point of what a dock is.

Anyway, all these are available in the tabbed Shelf if you are running Nexus Ultimate or Winstep Xtreme.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:23 pm 
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I think you're missing the point of what a dock is.

Anyway, all these are available in the tabbed Shelf if you are running Nexus Ultimate or Winstep Xtreme.


Please don't get offended by my comments. Make no mistakes - I think nexus is a GREAT product. I don't want to start a negative and useless conversation on what the point of a dock is. I have been using them for over a decade and I use them everyday. I switched to nexus because of its ability to have multiple docks. I just bought your product, so I am still a "novice" user, so to speak. Maybe I am missing few features.

I was providing you with some feedback on your product -I hope you find it useful - and I will in the future - if you want me to. I am sure I am not the only one asking for a different type of sub-dock. The reason that there are so many users asking for it is because some other docks - including RD and even mac's os x - support nesting docks in a more "usable" way. We like it.
Anyway, I don't see how the tabbed shelf is different than the regular dock, besides having multiple tabs - which is great - the behavior within the tab is the same.
If I understood correctly you are suggesting not to use sub-docks but rather a new tab on the tabbed shelf. Not the same...

Thank you for taking the time to reply back. That's important.
Please don't hesitate to contact me directly - if there is anything I can do to help I'll be more than happy to.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:46 pm 
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marma wrote:
Please don't get offended by my comments.


Ooops. :oops: Sorry if that is how I came across. I was not offended in the least, was just pointing out that a dock is not suitable to display the contents of folders - for a lot of reasons.

A Stacks docklet would be better suited, but a Stacks docklet is not a dock by any definition. :)

marma wrote:
I was providing you with some feedback on your product -I hope you find it useful - and I will in the future - if you want me to.


Feedback is always welcome. I might just disagree with you, but don't take that personally either, please - if so and if you provide enough positive arguments you might even be able to eventually convince me of something. ;-)

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Anyway, I don't see how the tabbed shelf is different than the regular dock, besides having multiple tabs - which is great - the behavior within the tab is the same.


Nope, they are very different beasts. A Shelf can display multiple rows of icons at once, for instance.

marma wrote:
If I understood correctly you are suggesting not to use sub-docks but rather a new tab on the tabbed shelf. Not the same...


Why not? The contents of the folder tab are just one click away too. :)

Plus, double clicking the tab header can expand the Shelf to full screen.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:27 pm 
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Hello,

how about adding this to the edge bump settings:

"needs swipe"

and

"not when moving"

With the first option the shelf/dock will only appear when you travel a specific distance along the edge with your cursor. (customizable in pixels)
This will prevent unwanted activation when having a shelf at the top of the screen and selecting a browser tab for example.
So you wouldn't need to set a high delay time, or be careful to stay a few pixels away from the edge.

The second option is the same but reversed, and would be for people like me. I usually switch a lot through my browser tabs. So i'm moving a lot along the edge of the screen, from the 2nd to the 5th tab, or from the 7th to the first. And the shelf activates all the time unwanted. It's nearly impossible to not toucht the edge while moving through your tabs. This setting will prevent an activation when moving. You will need to stay at one point of the edge (also customizable in pixels) to activate the shelf.



To be more specific:

Option 1: The swipe time is set to 150 ms for example. And the travel distance to 210 pixels. So when you just touch the edge of the screen, nothing happens yet. When you move the cursor slowly along the edge, it still doesn't activate it. Only when you travel a distance of at least 210 pixels in less than 150 ms, then the shelf/dock will be activated. So you will need to make a swipe at the edge to activate it.

Option 2: Activation delay is set to 500 ms. Travel distance is set to 5 pixels. Moving the cursor along the edge will not activate the shelf/dock. You will need to stay inside an aera of 5 pixels for at least 500 ms to activate the shelf/dock. Traveling more than 5 pixels will reset the timer. You need to keep still to activate it.

Option 3 then would be the normal edge bump activation as it's available right now, with only the delay time setting.


I hope you like the idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:53 am 
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Another suggestion:

All activation settings should be per shelf/dock, and not global.

I would like to have an auto-hiding dock at the left edge of the screen, that only shows running applications. As a task bar replacement.
This dock should appear as fast as possible. For task switching.

But when i set an activation delay of 100 ms, the setting applies to all hidden docks and shelfs. This is not quite optimal.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:20 am 
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This software really gets better and better :) Good work!


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:49 pm 
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deathaction wrote:
This software really gets better and better :) Good work!


That's true!


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 Post subject: sub-dock enhancement
PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:19 pm 
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Hello,

i have yet another suggestion. :)

Assigning an application to the icon of the sub-dock. Clicking the sub-dock icon normally launches the assigned program, double clicking, or middle clicking (maybe customizable) opens the sub-dock.
This should be optional. So if you don't assign an app to the icon, the sub-dock's behaviour is like it is now. A left click opens the sub-dock. That's it.
As soon as you assign a program to the sub-dock icon, then the advanced click settings become available.

Some examples for what this could be used:

1. You have a sub-dock with several web browsers, but most of the time you use chrome.

2. You have a sub-dock with various game platforms, like steam, origin, but most of the time you start steam.

3. You have a sub-dock for various DAW's (digital audio workstation) like Bitwig, Fruity Loops, Cubase, but most of the time you start Bitwig.

4. You have a sub-dock with audio setting shotcuts, like the windows volume mixer, another mixer from your musician sound card, an audio driver settings app, ect. but most of the time you start the windows volume mixer.

5. You have a sub-dock with various Ultramon profile shortcuts, like "only tv", "tv + 1 monitior", "tv + 2 monitors", etc. but most of the time you start the "tv + 1 monitor" profile.

6. You have a sub-dock with various messengers, and/or email programs or links, like facebook, skype, outlook, etc. but most of the time you start facebook.

I just try to hit the nerve. ;)
So you wouldn't need to open the sub-dock every time if you mostly start just one specific application out of this category.

And to take out all the most used apps and place them in a seperate field would render one of the most useful functions of sub-docks useless. You would use up another 6 slots if you take out your main apps of 6 sub-docks. So i think this would be a very useful addition.


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 Post subject: Re: sub-dock enhancement
PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:43 am 
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toniostarcevic wrote:
Assigning an application to the icon of the sub-dock.


You can actually do that already, but you will have to right click the sub-dock icon, select Dock Entry Properties and then manually change the item into the application you want via the Item Properties dialog.

Once you do this, however, the only way to open the sub-dock is to click the sub-dock indicator arrow, since clicking the item's icon itself will launch the associated application instead.

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