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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:42 am 
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Jumplist support, anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:30 am 
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Oh, that's cool, you can use any type of element as dock icon. Didn't knew that. But it's quite hard to hit the arrow with the zoom effect enabled. Even without...
Best would be to open the dock with middle or right click. When choosing right click, the righ click-settings could swap to middle click.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:57 pm 
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toniostarcevic wrote:
Oh, that's cool, you can use any type of element as dock icon. Didn't knew that. But it's quite hard to hit the arrow with the zoom effect enabled.


I know. Which is why we don't advertise that 'feature'. :)

FYI, that is the way it worked before the whole OSX dock magnification craze, the main item could be anything and you would click the sub-dock indicator to open a sub-dock. But docks were 'static' back then.

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Best would be to open the dock with middle or right click. When choosing right click, the righ click-settings could swap to middle click.


Probably is that all these mouse buttons are already in use for the 'running application' icons. Middle click, for instance, will terminate that running application. What each button does can even be customized, see WorkShelf Preferences -> Tasks tab -> Advanced button -> Tasklist Actions section.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
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robinsiebler wrote:
Jumplist support, anyone?


What exactly do you consider to be the most useful feature of the Jumplist? Access to recently opened documents?

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:41 am 
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winstep wrote:

FYI, that is the way it worked before the whole OSX dock magnification craze, the main item could be anything and you would click the sub-dock indicator to open a sub-dock. But docks were 'static' back then.


It's sure a matter of taste, but i like the zoom effect and i also think it's useful.
You can have more detailed icons, that "tell you more" about the item.

winstep wrote:

Probably is that all these mouse buttons are already in use for the 'running application' icons. Middle click, for instance, will terminate that running application. What each button does can even be customized, see WorkShelf Preferences -> Tasks tab -> Advanced button -> Tasklist Actions section.


But these settings work only for task icons, not for normal dock icons or sub-docks.
Or would it mean to have to do a major code change to be able to seperate the click settings of dock and task icons?
In this case i hope you can eventually add this.

You could also add a middle click setting for all dock icons, as it's not in use right now.

And sub-docks should have this additional setting, "open dock", that you can assign to middle click.
Normally it's greyed out. It only becomes available when assigning an application to the sub-dock icon.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:18 pm 
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So I've read part of this thread and from what I can ascertain, showing contents of a folder is not supported. The recommendation is to put separate shortcuts on tabs instead?


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:33 pm 
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wolfgrrl wrote:
So I've read part of this thread and from what I can ascertain, showing contents of a folder is not supported. The recommendation is to put separate shortcuts on tabs instead?


Not on *docks* (docks by definition do not scroll).

If you are running Nexus Ultimate or Winstep Xtreme, on the other hand, you can add tabs to the Shelf (the tabbed dock) to display the contents of an associated folder.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:32 pm 
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If this (wishlist) is still being looked at ;) :

- ability to add the standard language toolbar (which allows a quick switching of region and keyboard layout) to the Winstep taskbar
- ability to add a shortcut the the metro UI on Windows 8
- easier way to manager desktop modules : give a way to have a "group" or something of preferred modules, and a shortcut to stop/start these modules only (and I mean stop, not hide ;) )
- possibility of giving subdocks a different theme from their parent docks ?
- and above all, correction of the focus/zorder problems on the taskbar (see my thread on this subject) because of which I finally had to give up using said taskbar.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:33 am 
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To my previous speaker:
If you have Stardock's Start 8 installed, just create a shortcut with the target:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start8\Start8.exe" Metro
If you haven't Start 8, use this ShowStart.exe file:
http://www.7tutorials.com/download-shor ... en-desktop
Or you can just create a text file and name it start. Then rename the extension from txt to vbs.
Right click it and select edit. Insert this:
Set objShell = CreateObject ("WScript.Shell")
objShell.SendKeys "^{ESC}"
Save the file.
Either way, just copy the shortcut somewhere and drag it to your dock or shelf.


+1 for language/layout setting. That would be useful. But i'd rather have it for the dock not for the taskbar.

+1 for the ability to select a different theme for sub-docks!

But my most important issue right now is the missing ability to add metro apps to the dock. (the apps downloaded through the Windows Store in Windows 8+)
They work in Stardock's "Start 8" though. But if I drag them from Start 8 to Nexus (works with all other apps) it doesn't work with the metro apps. Can you add metro app support to the Nexus Dock please? Either "native" by adding it to the "Insert new element" function, (what would require Winstep to recognice all installed metro apps...) or at least by just making it possible to drag the shortcuts from Start 8 (or similiar) to the dock?

But by all that requests please don't forget to revert the Aero Blur removement. It can't even be fixed by setting all Winstep executables to Vista compatiblity mode. I had to downgrade my Winstep version. It's okay to disable the blur as standard setting for all the noobs out there. But I don't understand why you haven't made it optional and force locked it like this. A simple hint about the outcome of the setting would have been enough.
By the way, the Aero Blur hack (AeroGlass) gets more and more popular. Meanwhile it's even icluded in the UxTheme Patcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
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Bloody spammers Wtf, do NOT click on there links.
Need a report post button here j.
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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:55 am 
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The tutorial link is so useful for me.
Thanks for posting here.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:27 am 
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Hi guys

Winstep Ultimate need some extra features like

1. Editing a Sub-Dock.

2. Ease of creation of a Sub-Dock by drag and drop icons one over the other and with an option of grouping on right clicking on any icon.

3. Limiting the Dock size to the Monitors Width. Most of the times icons go beyond the screen becoming invisible and making it unable to access.

4. Saving of Customized docks, sub-docks and Styles .

5. Merging of One dock with Another and ability to convert an existing dock to a sub-dock of an item of another dock.

6. Giving names to Docks and sub-docks for easy identification, that shall be displayed on mouse over on top.

7. Full freedom of customization of Docks, Shelves and Sub-Docks by creating new styles and saving those styles and share it over the Winstep Forum.

8. Creation of Custom Themes and saving it and sharing it on the forum.

thank you

Hope for the best..
Awesome job by Winstep Team..


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:09 pm 
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fourdragons wrote:
1. Editing a Sub-Dock.


What do you mean? Sub-dock contents can be managed via drag & drop and right-click context menus.

fourdragons wrote:
2. Ease of creation of a Sub-Dock by drag and drop icons one over the other and with an option of grouping on right clicking on any icon.


If you drag a shortcut over a sub-dock icon it will automatically open the sub-dock after one second or so. Then you can simply drop that shortcut into the sub-dock itself.

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3. Limiting the Dock size to the Monitors Width. Most of the times icons go beyond the screen becoming invisible and making it unable to access.


But docks sizes *are* limited to the monitor's width. If a dock does not fit, it will automatically shrink the size of the icons down until a maximum of 16x16 pixels.

Only after that 16x16 pixel icons limit is reached will the dock start extending beyond a monitor's width, but if you have a dock with that many items then you are not using it right!

fourdragons wrote:
4. Saving of Customized docks, sub-docks and Styles .


You can backup settings on Preferences. This will save all current docks and applied theme(s).

fourdragons wrote:
5. Merging of One dock with Another and ability to convert an existing dock to a sub-dock of an item of another dock.


If you move the control icon of a dock into another dock, it will convert it into a sub-dock on the target dock.

Right click the sub-dock icon on a dock and you have a command to 'detach sub-dock' and convert the sub-dock into a separate dock.

fourdragons wrote:
6. Giving names to Docks and sub-docks for easy identification, that shall be displayed on mouse over on top.


The name of a dock is associated to the control dock icon, which you can rename. Thus each dock can have its own name.

Same with sub-docks - you can rename the sub-dock icon to whatever you want.

fourdragons wrote:
7. Full freedom of customization of Docks, Shelves and Sub-Docks by creating new styles and saving those styles and share it over the Winstep Forum.


You can already do this and share your themes/skins on sites such as Wincustomize. You will have to learn how to skin Winstep applications first, though.

fourdragons wrote:
8. Creation of Custom Themes and saving it and sharing it on the forum.


See above.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:09 pm 
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Just adding a +1 for scrollable dock. Would be awesome to have 'x' amount of games added to a dock that's say 10 icons wide, but using the mouse wheel or going to the very edge of the dock would show all the 'other' games/programs.

Options would have to include a default position that it resets to on loading of a app, and/or the ability to have it stay at the last activated app.

Also having a fullscreen style dock where the icon you hover over is always brought to the front of others.

Previous desktops have been:

http://fav.me/d8cp53v
http://fav.me/d6pl28v
http://fav.me/d944oy1

Only just stumbled upon Nexus Ultimate, it's definitely looking to replace objectdock.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:26 am 
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Hey,

I have been using Stardock Objectdock for about 6 years but wanted to try something new after installing Windows 10. So I installed Winstep Nexus Dock and Rocketdock along with Objectdock to try them out. The Nexus dock is very nice and provides a lot of options. Here are some issues I have come across.

1. The dock auto-hides even if the mouse is still in the edge bump location. In Rocketdock And Objectdock, if the mouse is touching the bottom edge bump area, the dock remains visible on the screen. Whereas the Nexus dock hides even if the mouse is at the bottom of the screen. Now there is a kind of work around by going to Setting Behavior>Advanced>Hide or collapse automatically only when other windows have the focus, but then this needs the user to click on some area outside the dock for the dock to hide. I made a video to demonstrate.
Video: http://gfycat.com/ImpressiveComplicatedLamb

2. Auto-hiding the dock brings me to my second issue. Nexus Dock has the most settings and customizations but I found it strange that the auto hiding setting stops at 500ms for hiding and 100ms for showing. I mean the slider is there, its just missing the smaller time limits. Rocketdock starts from 0ms for both show and hide and Objectdock is super super smooth with the setting set to shortest delay. Long show-hide delay times makes the Nexus Dock seem sluggish by comparison when in reality it simply lacks the lesser time limits on the slider. Please give shorter time options for hiding the dock via "Delay Before Automatically Hiding The Dock". The smallest sime is 500ms, please allow the slider to select small values starting from 10-20-100ms etc. Also please give shorter time periods for showing the dock via the setting "Delay to activate and show the dock when the mouse pointer bumps the screen edge or counter". Currently the shortest allowed time is 100ms, that feels slow too compared to other docks, please give shorter options like 1-10-50ms. I made another video to demonstrate the auto hiding speeds of the three docks.
Video: http://gfycat.com/EnormousElegantAustraliankelpie

3. The "open folders as menu" option should be available on a folder to folder basis present inside every icon's "Dock Entry Properties". Objectdock has a check-uncheck option to view the folder like a menu as default: Seen here: http://i.imgur.com/bwDIi86.png This allows us to have menus for folders we want such as Programs but not for folders such as C: and D: Drive. At the moment there is one default option in Advanced Behavior Settings that applies to ALL folders or we need to press and hold the icon for the menu to appear. This feels very slow. Also in Objectdock the folder can be opened as a menu and every menu and submenu has the option to open folder by clicking at the first entry at the top separated from the rest by a separator. Seen here: http://i.imgur.com/ypy04LQ.png
Also, kindly allow the user to increase the size of the right click menus of the dock including the "folder as menu" menus because currently they are quite small and difficult to read.

4. Dock Preferences as a shortcut on the dock has not yet been implemented. Please implement this otherwise it takes very long to reach the Dock Preferences via right click>nexus>preferences. Both other docks have this implemented. I mean the shortcut created by right clicking>insert new dock item>internal command>nexus preferences.

5. Lastly, the settings or preferences interface is very cluttered. There is a left row and a right row and then various buttons and tips in between. This makes the settings seem complicated when they are actually simple. it would be easier to atleast have them in a single row from top to bottom. This prevents the user from missing any options. Right now I "dread" the thought of opening and going through the options if I want to change anything becaue not only do I not remember where they are but I keep missing some checkbox or button because they are all over the place and some are accessed by pressing buttons. Infact it took me a lot of time just to find the 2-3 settings I needed to refer to type this post.

Nexus Dock is an amazing dock because it has so many options and can even use the skins from other docks. But at the moment its auto-hide and show behavior is slow and there are no options to selectively show folders as menus for individual folders. Thats why I am forced to stick to Objectdock.

Thanks.


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