What's next after v25.2?

nexter · **Posted:** Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:40 pm

winstep wrote:

24H2 is the issue no doubt, but it must be also related to *something* WorkShelf is doing. You don't see those kind of values in NextSTART, for instance.

I still haven't given up on figuring out what exactly might be causing this (in what concerns WorkShelf, of course). The fact that CPU usage fluctuates so wildly when idle for long periods of time doesn't help (sometimes it will keep at about 1.8%, other times it will keep at 0.2% or less, with nothing changed in the application's configuration).

You could spend all the time the universe has existed so far and still not find the real cause. Just shrug, say "Win 11 and 24H2 are the biggest pile of steaming, mal-odious manure in the universe", and forget about it and live in peace, Jorge.

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12281

nexter wrote:

Just shrug, say "Win 11 and 24H2 are the biggest pile of steaming, mal-odious manure in the universe", and forget about it and live in peace, Jorge.

Yeah, *I* could do that, but then a new Windows 11 user would install a Winstep application, see that it is using more CPU than he personally feels comfortable with (and indeed much more than it should), happily blame the application rather than Windows 11 24H2, and uninstall it.

Users rarely realize - or indeed even care - if a bug or issue is actually not the fault of the application itself, but some 3rd party stuff or yet another change Microsoft has made to Windows.

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12281

Given how disruptive the blank UWP app icons are and since I just fixed the issue here, I decided to issue another private beta (Beta 2) soon after the first.

Ok, here are the links to the betas:

WARNING: These are updates and MUST be installed ON TOP of an EXISTING Nexus Ultimate v25.2 or Winstep Xtreme v25.2 installation. Please make sure your license keys will still work with the new betas.

DO NOT install these betas if you have multiple monitors running with different DPIs, work on adding per-monitor high DPI support is not finished yet.

To install the betas, download the relevant file for you from the links below then EXIT all running Winstep applications before running Setup.

Winstep Xtreme v25.6 BETA 2:

https://www.winstep.net/xtreme-beta.zip

Nexus Ultimate v25.6 BETA 2:

https://www.winstep.net/ultimate-beta.zip

PumaUK · **Joined:** Wed May 15, 2019 1:47 pm **Posts:** 26

just fiddling around with workshelf. I see around a 3% drop in cpu usage if i disable the internet adapter.

Does that happen if you do that on the setup you have?

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12281

Not really.

Then again it's not at that phase where it is using >1% of CPU usage.

nexter · **Posted:** Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:53 pm

winstep wrote:

nexter wrote:

Just shrug, say "Win 11 and 24H2 are the biggest pile of steaming, mal-odious manure in the universe", and forget about it and live in peace, Jorge.

Yeah, *I* could do that, but then a new Windows 11 user would install a Winstep application, see that it is using more CPU than he personally feels comfortable with (and indeed much more than it should), happily blame the application rather than Windows 11 24H2, and uninstall it.

Users rarely realize - or indeed even care - if a bug or issue is actually not the fault of the application itself, but some 3rd party stuff or yet another change Microsoft has made to Windows.

Yeah, I got to learn about that problem way back in the '90s, in my beta testing and coding days in unices (NeXT, Solaris, etc.). Luckily, users there were mostly a bit more intelligent and at least would report the problem, and we then were able to disabuse them of their ideas that the app was to blame when really it was another 3rd party app or, extremely rarely, some anomaly in the OS. To some degree the same could be said for OS/2 Warp users.

*But*, you still could end up hunting for the cause till the cows come home and still never find the answer Jorge. Such is the perversity of Win 11. :twisted:

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12281

More good news!

The most difficult part - getting the GUI to support per-monitor high DPI settings and automatically re-size itself when moving it between monitors with different DPIs - is nearly completed, what is left is mostly "grunt" work.

Nearly there!

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What's next after v25.2?