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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:07 pm 
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Well, it kinda works at larger sizes, but even then it's messy, I have to admit.

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But in that case and mostly for the sake of clarity, something like this would probably work a lot better:

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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:50 pm 
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The SSD/HDD is looking great.

I am not sure how much information you can display exactly? I gather from the posts above, the obvious ones, the drive light, Volume names, how full it is or isn't and what is on the hover-over.

A temperature option (displayed) would be extremely useful. - option for Fahrenheit or Celsius.

Other options and less necessary:
1. (Removed - it exists)
2. Ability to detect SATA / HDD/ nvme vs SSD types etc...most people do not have IDE anymore...
3. SMART functions where available - most newer MB's have them built-in.
4. Clear delineation between a network drive (connected/disconnected), external drive and internal.


PIE-CHART
I can see the idea and it is good. The only issue I see being that you have it behaving like a meter that fills up or decreases as the disk increases or respectively decreases. This makes an angled pie-chart, no matter how good or bad the design, quality or drawing is more difficult than usual. I say this because if I got it correctly, it would need to behave like a multi-meter and have at least ten stages. To be accurate because most drives give warnings at 5%, probably 20 stages in 5% amounts. You could go to 100 stages but I do not think that is your intent though it can be done? The hover-over could cover the exact %.

The design is uncommon for a pie-chart as most are flat, and I can see that if more time is spent on it, it could look really great because it has that 3D look and feel. Sure in its draft form which I understood it all to be, it is rough, I can still see the potential. Keep at it!!

I gather all of the details that you finalize will have the facility to display in text like a normal module? Mine will look more like your bulk one anyway as you can see by the purposely blurred names of the screenshot.

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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:35 pm 
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Installed and tested with no issues from my end but a bonus I have no explanation for.
I decided randomly to do a reassociation with this beta version that failed on 25.9. It worked and 'Convert to Xtreme' is now there in the context menu. No fricking idea why it failed in 25.9 and worked on this beta version. Just grateful it worked :)

NOTE ON HDD'S:
If they are only going to be on the Nexus bar or as an independent nexus bar, fine. If it is going to be an independent module, it seems to work like a gauge/meter. You may not need to reinvent the wheel. You already have gauges, multi-meter and histogram which can more than serve the purposes. Just an observation. ;)

- from a module design perspective, my own i.e., The base HDD graphic could have a gauge above it on each drive or a meter underneath or a vertical next to it, as well as a placeholder for each drive information, if you wanted to allow that much info which the mouse-over should cover anyway. The only thing any skinner needs to know to do a gauge is how you configured it - e.g. in 5% amounts or 1% amounts.


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@JORGE -I did two images only to see if it would be as difficult as I imagined...
I wasn't far off the mark. It won't be easy if you are attempting a sunken 3D pie chart as a HDD space gauge. It is certainly feasible but honestly, if you are not using an A.I. to do it, then it is a fair bit of work as I found. because you'd need to do it in 1% increments. The first is approximately 15% and the second 10% on its own. The angle choice as in where you would want the 10% which could easily gradient into the brighter red to be positioned within the circumference of the circle, only you'd know.

I think Nexter is right that it would need to be facing the user and he's a real Graphic artist as is Picco14. So unless you are unhappy with the A.I, maybe ask one of them to do it if they are interested? I doubt my skills are up to theirs and if they chose to do it, I think they'd do a great job. Shame JcRabbit is no longer doing it anymore, unless that is actually you Jorge?
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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
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Better?

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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
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winstep wrote:
Better?

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@JORGE

What anyone other than you, the creator thinks and I cannot stress it enough, really does not matter. This is your baby. I think so but that is only my opinion. You have a great product and a vision. i am confident that whatever you settle on, whether it is in the interim pending further development or the final product, will be great :)


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winstep wrote:
Well, it kinda works at larger sizes, but even then it's messy, I have to admit.

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Messy? Yes, and just ghastly and all wrong.
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But in that case and mostly for the sake of clarity, something like this would probably work a lot better:

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Yes, it would indeed.

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winstep wrote:
Better?

Infinitely! :D

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BassdudeNZ wrote:
What anyone other than you, the creator thinks and I cannot stress it enough, really does not matter.


Eheh of course it does, otherwise I would not be here asking for opinions. The final word will be mine, obviously, but constructive feedback is always very much welcome.

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Shame JcRabbit is no longer doing it anymore, unless that is actually you Jorge?]


Yeah, that's me, yours truly! lol Coelho in Portuguese means Rabbit.

nexter wrote:
Infinitely! :D


And here is where the Icon Factory stuff I did in a previous release to customize the colors of the Nexus icon will come in very handy, just as I predicted: I just changed the dialog so it can be used not only to customize the colors of the Nexus icon but other bitmaps as well.

Because the Nexus icon is a composite icon (i.e. made of two individual bitmaps combined into one, the shape and the Nexus text logo), the Icon Factory dialog supports customizing the colors of two bitmaps individually and then combining them into a single image. Because the ring meter style is also made of two individual bitmaps combined into one (the darker ring and the lighter ring) this ability comes in very handy for customizing the colors of the ring disk meter style as well.

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And what do you guys think of the following variation?

In this case the orange would be the used space growing clockwise...


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winstep wrote:
BassdudeNZ wrote:
What anyone other than you, the creator thinks and I cannot stress it enough, really does not matter.


Eheh of course it does, otherwise I would not be here asking for opinions. The final word will be mine, obviously, but constructive feedback is always very much welcome.

BassdudeNZ wrote:
Shame JcRabbit is no longer doing it anymore, unless that is actually you Jorge?]


Yeah, that's me, yours truly! lol Coelho in Portuguese means Rabbit.

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Infinitely! :D


And here is where the Icon Factory stuff I did in a previous release to customize the colors of the Nexus icon will come in very handy, just as I predicted: I just changed the dialog so it can be used not only to customize the colors of the Nexus icon but other bitmaps as well.

Because the Nexus icon is a composite icon (i.e. made of two individual bitmaps combined into one, the shape and the Nexus text logo), the Icon Factory dialog supports customizing the colors of two bitmaps individually and then combining them into a single image. Because the ring meter style is also made of two individual bitmaps combined into one (the darker ring and the lighter ring) this ability comes in very handy for customizing the colors of the ring disk meter style as well.

That should work out very nicely, Jorge. The ring shape is unusual and stands out well. :D

ISTR that "coelho" is the same in Espanol also, no?

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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
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winstep wrote:
And what do you guys think of the following variation?

In this case the orange would be the used space growing clockwise...

What, you mean for once that mega data harvester imbecile of an AI Ass-istant has actually come up with some decent work?! ;) :P

No, seriously, looks good, sexy even! :D Only, could we have the *option* of going anti-clockwise please? Feels far more natural to me. Look e.g. at histograms - they progress right to left.

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ISTR that "coelho" is the same in Espanol also, no?


Not exactly. In Spanish it's Conejo. Portuguese has a "lh" sound that does not exist in English.

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 Post subject: Re: So, what's next after v25.9 ?
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ISTR that "coelho" is the same in Espanol also, no?


Not exactly. In Spanish it's Conejo. Portuguese has a "lh" sound that does not exist in English.

Oh well, I stand corrected. My Spanish was as brilliant as my French - like a French cow speaking Spanish. ;) Port and Cheese was my best by far out of the Latin-derived lingos, followed by Italiano, but alas all long forgotten apart from the odd phrase, expression or word. :( Come to that, I probably remember more of my Latin.

But there is a pretty close sound to "lh" in English, Jorge. It's the consonant form of "y" - not identical, but close IIRC. :)

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Ok, here is a couple of problems with how the graph is represented in the dark/light blue ring version: what GROWS is used space, not free space. Free space normally decreases.

So, for these type of graphs whatever is growing starts at 0 degrees and grows in a clockwise direction - which is what this graph is representing and would be fine if free space grew. But it does not, it decreases.

So, since it is used space that actually grows, it is used space (the darker blue) that should start at 0 degrees and grow in clockwise motion (basically the mirror image of the current graph).

HOWEVER, in that case the label should also represent the value of what is actually growing. For everything to line up correctly, the label should therefore say "x% used", not "x% free" as it does now.

On the other hand, I think saying "5% free" is more meaningful than saying "95% used", but maybe I am wrong?

I can keep the "x% free" but then the user has to mentally "flip" the value to the light blue part of the graph and not the "growing" part of the graph.

Not sure what to do (see, the devil is always in the little details).

Also tried the other ring variation, which option do you guys like best? I'll let you know my personal preference after so I don't influence anyone.
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