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Winstep crashing since the latest update
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Author:  seeker [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
sent the settings form yesterday
Author:  winstep [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
seeker wrote:
sent the settings form yesterday


Thanks! Figured out what it is and fixed it. :)

It was related to module scaling and also the 'Disable module scaling on high DPI settings' option.
Author:  winstep [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
So, been a couple of hours already... I take it crashes and general weirdness have so far been absent now that MP3 files are played by the Audio proxy?
Author:  seeker [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
yes, it seems to be fixed, nothing happened and i have something playing an mp3 trough winstep every now an then (alarms 4x an hour, email checker and time notification), ill keep it like this for a while more but i think we may be good
Author:  vectornut [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
winstep wrote:
Ok, open WorkShelf Preferences, go to the Advanced tab and make sure 'Notify me of beta (test) versions' is enabled, then click the Check for Updates button.

The Winstep Update Manager should pick up the new beta.


Talk about strange. AS I was reading this post, Winstep notified me that there were updates available. :shock:
Author:  winstep [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
vectornut wrote:
Talk about strange. AS I was reading this post, Winstep notified me that there were updates available. :shock:


You are about to enter another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Twilight Zone! :lol:
Author:  seeker [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
No issues trough the night. ill update if something does happen, but i think we can say problem fixed
Author:  winstep [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
I think so too.

Let this be an important lesson to everyone reading this. Buggy 3rd party software can - and sometimes will - interfere with other applications. Codecs, filters, drivers, AV software, shell context menu extensions, Control Panel applets - they all can cause problems. It's also VERY HARD to diagnose these type of problems, as can be easily concluded from this *11 page* thread.

Thanks, Seeker, for your patience and willingness to try out different things. :)
Author:  seeker [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
thank you, a lot of developers would have ignored a bug that affects so small percentage of users
Author:  winstep [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
seeker wrote:
thank you, a lot of developers would have ignored a bug that affects so small percentage of users


Sometimes there is nothing I can do. I also wouldn't call this a 'bug' but an 'issue', since the problem was not in the Winstep software itself.

All I did was work around someone else's bug, which unfortunately affected the Winstep application in such a way that made *it* look buggy. In the end it was worth it because it makes the Winstep application more robust and less vulnerable to bugs in 3rd party audio codecs and filters.

Still leaves a bitter taste in the mouth though: as if fixing my own bugs wasn't already enough, now I have to work around other application's bugs too lol =)
Author:  seeker [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
well, i rolled back to 16.12 to test ac3. don't think it was causing the issue, at least if it was, nether uninstall nor installing a new version didn't fix it
Author:  winstep [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
Uninstall any codec packs you've got and install the latest K-Lite.
Author:  winstep [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
How's it going? :)

By the way, if I set ESC to snooze the Alarm (when it has a Snooze option) instead of killing it, would that work for you?

Currently the space bar snoozes the alarm and ESC kills it. I can either make ESC act the same way as the space bar (does anyone else reading this have anything against this, by the way?) or offer either a global option (i.e.; in the Alarm Settings dialog) or a per-alarm option.
Author:  seeker [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
winstep wrote:
How's it going? :)

uninstalled all the codecs and installed K-Lite tonight, then reinstalled winstep to 16.12 to see how it behaves

winstep wrote:
By the way, if I set ESC to snooze the Alarm (when it has a Snooze option) instead of killing it, would that work for you?

Currently the space bar snoozes the alarm and ESC kills it. I can either make ESC act the same way as the space bar (does anyone else reading this have anything against this, by the way?) or offer either a global option (i.e.; in the Alarm Settings dialog) or a per-alarm option.


it would work for me, but i think per-alarm option would be the best solution generally speaking
Author:  seeker [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Winstep crashing since the latest update
seeker wrote:
winstep wrote:
How's it going? :)

uninstalled all the codecs and installed K-Lite tonight, then reinstalled winstep to 16.12 to see how it behaves



Installed K-Lite basic pack (figured it would be the best one for testing out the issue, later i can upgrade to mega if needed)
so far so good, but it would be quite hard to pinpoint which codec was responsible.

i will have to reinstall some (like OpenAL which is needed for some of my games) so if it was one of those ill post it
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