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 Post subject: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:43 am 
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I found myself using invisible docks many times just to set
the maximum window size.
What I mean is I set an invisible dock anchored left or/and right
or/and up or down and set its options so windows can't hide the dock
but the dock is invisible so i see desktop.Now when i maximize
a window it defaults to the limit the docks have set the size and the place.
BUT this trick have limits to what can be done as vertical attached
docks can be 128 pixels maximum away from the side they reside.

I believe this is a useful function to have.
Please make a separate feature to set the maximum windows size and place
on the desktop without setting invisible docks and remove the 128 pixel barrier.
And it could also have a simple override like a shortcut to maximize windows
in full screen again.

I believe this is very simple to make and important enough.

thanks!!! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:04 pm 
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Huh? Why use 'invisible docks' in the first place? You could simply set 'Reserve screen Space' instead. Why you'd want to is a different mystery again. If you don't want a window to fully maximize, it's a simple matter of dragging its edges until it's the desired size. It will then fully maximize in the normal way when you want to.

All in all, I don't think your suggestion - never mind how easy or otherwise to implement - seems a rather superfluous and certainly unimportant if not frivolous addition especially when there are matters of real gravity awaiting attention, surely.

Just my 2p's worth. :)

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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:16 pm 
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Well, continuously resizing the windows which i open each and every time
i boot the pc is annoying.
And i want to resize the windows so the various gadgets/widgets that i use
have their information shown.

But if there is such an option (reserve windows space) of course I want
to use it to avoid the transparent dock trick.

So where is this option ???? ( reserve screen space)???????
Windows settings??? Workself settings???? Help a bit more...


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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:59 pm 
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The NextSTART component of Winstep Xtreme already has a feature that allows you to reserve as much screen space as you want on the edges of all your monitors.

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If you're running Nexus Ultimate, I suggest you upgrade to Winstep Xtreme. :)

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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:07 pm 
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aliou1900 wrote:
Well, continuously resizing the windows which i open each and every time i boot the pc is annoying.
And i want to resize the windows so the various gadgets/widgets that i use
have their information shown.

Most (almost all though not quite) application windows will retain the size you set them to. It's what I have always done, as I don't like the default sizes that most apps open with initially (they tend to waste too much screen space, esp. nowadays with the idiotic widescreen format - after all, we don't normally say read a book in landscape format). I also hate maximizing windows and only do it very rarely, but that's another story. :) But, it's horses for courses of course.
aliou1900 wrote:
But if there is such an option (reserve windows space) of course I want to use it to avoid the transparent dock trick....

It's in NextSTART's preferences on the 'General' tab, on the top left. It lets you reserve screen space at all four sides of the screen, up to somewhere around 200 pixels I think. I use that myself for some themes e.g. to keep a dock slightly off its docked screen edge, and to prevent anything from covering the tasklist.

Hope this helps. :)

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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:18 pm 
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Really, really , really thank you, guys!!!!

Although I feel a bit embarrassed not to have noticed this before!

Yes! I have winstep Extreme! So I have this feature!

Thank you , everybody & admin !!!


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Eheheh. :)

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winstep wrote:
The NextSTART component of Winstep Xtreme already has a feature that allows you to reserve as much screen space as you want on the edges of all your monitors.

http://www.winstep.net/images/nsreservescreen.jpg

If you're running Nexus Ultimate, I suggest you upgrade to Winstep Xtreme. :)

Couldn't agree more! NextSTART is an incredibly useful part of the whole suite - IMO the single most powerful and useful part of it, and especially so in combination with the other components, i.e. Nexus/Workshelf. At a push, I could probably live without Nexus, but without NextSTART and Workshelf, never. :) And if I could have only one, then it would have to be NS.

The complete Winstep Xtreme suite is an almost complete UI/window manager replacement, except for handling actual Explorer windows. (That might come in another decade perhaps! ;) ) But it's also more than a replacement - it's a lot more powerful and versatile than the standard Windows GUI (as well as less ugly :) ), even though both are based on essentially the exact same paradigm, funnily enough.

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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:19 pm 
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i havent used it but what he originaly suggested sounded like Fences.
i personaly use WindowManager to set size/position of different windows
it would be a nice addition to Nexus but dont know how many people would be interested in it


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 Post subject: Re: set max size windows limit per side as a function......
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:34 pm 
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The least Winstep applications interfere with 3rd party applications, the better. You're opening a gigantic can of worms every time you do that.

The reserve screen space in NextSTART/Winstep Xtreme is useful because you can use it to 'protect' NextSTART hotspot buttons and WorkShelf desktop modules. Nexus Ultimate and Nexus do not feature those, so such a feature would not make sense for them.

Reserve screen space is accomplished by using the appbar feature built-in into Windows, which was originally intended for 'screen edge toolbars' (such as the Windows taskbar). You tell Windows how much space you want to reserve and Windows does the rest: it automatically resizes the area available for desktop icons so they don't appear under the toolbar(s), and uses the size of this area as the size of maximized windows. It also notifies your application when other applications change the size of the reserved area with their own toolbars, automatically re-adjusts sizes and positions, etc...

Funnily enough, just yesterday I got an email from a user complaining that Fences icons would move when Nexus loaded, and he considered that a bug. It isn't at all, it's just the two applications (Nexus and Fences) working as designed and as they should - the only reason he saw Fences icons moving was because Nexus was loading AFTER Fences.

I advised him to either disable the reserve screen space function ('prevent maximized windows...') or enable Fast Boot so Nexus loads before Fences.

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