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 Post subject: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:24 am 
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I have gone into every panel to make sure the lock icons and disabling dragging is unchecked. So I should be able to drag icons/shortcuts to my shelf and move them around while on there. I have it set to regular. Is this not a feature for the shelf? I could have swore I was dragging my shortcuts to it before, but it has been a while since I used it so I could be remembering wrong :( Also when I use the folder option I can't drag icons to change the appearance either something is locking me out of any kind of drag and drop function on the shelf. Thank you !

update: If I use the default tabs when you first load the shelf the drag and drop function and moving the icons around on the shelf work, the second I delete any of those tabs all drag and drop functions cease to work on any tab after that. So I can't change anything under the content tabs or it disables all my drag and drop.


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:46 am 
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Perhaps you have the 'Lock icons and prevent them from being dragged' setting enabled in the Behavior tab of the Shelf Properties dialog?

Also, you are not running the Winstep application elevated with Admin privileges, right? You would get a warning when launching it if so.

And yes, 'Regular' is the right tab type to drag shortcuts to.

When the tab type of a shelf is set to 'folder' you cannot change the icons of the items in it, since that tab will be basically a 'window' to the real folder AND files (a tab of type folder has different rules from a tab of type Regular).

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:48 am 
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I made sure all of the Locks are disabled. Something is locking me out when I try to change the tabs to how I want them. Like I will delete the default ones and use the main one to start. Once I have altered anything from default my drag and drop shuts off even if set to regular. It is not running under admin also :)


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:57 am 
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What exactly are you altering from default?

Also, can you drag & drop the icons in the Main tab before you start deleting other tabs?

I need a detailed step-by-step description of what you are doing and what happens to see if I can reproduce it here.

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:01 am 
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1. Reset to default. Everything works. I can drag and drop to the shelf and move the icons around once there.

2. If I delete any of the default tabs, from Main to Active Tasks, all of the drag and drop stops working and I can no longer move any of the icons around on the shelf either.

3. Unable to alter from default in any way or I lose drag and drop function.


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:11 am 
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What version of Winstep Xtreme are you running?

Also, what Windows version?

Try the following:

1. Open Preferences.
2. Go to the Dock & Shelves tab.
3. Click 'Create New Shelf'

What are all the names of the tabs that appear on the new shelf by default?

What happens if you then delete all the tabs except the Main tab? Does drag & drop cease to work as well? Works fine here.

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:16 am 
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Also, I just tried resetting everything to default here, deleted all the tabs in the Shelf other than Main and drag & drop was still working fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:17 am 
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Version 22.7

Windows 10 Pro

New Shelf Tabs - Main, Apps, Documents and Modules.

Same thing happens on the new shelf, I deleted the Modules tab and now the drag and drop ceases to function on the new shelf.


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:25 am 
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Strange, can't reproduce here.

1. Where are you dragging the icons from?

2. Sometimes the devil is in the details. Exactly HOW are you deleting the extra tabs? In which order?

Also, when you create a new shelf, before deleting any of the tabs, try adding a few shortcuts to the Main tab. Once the other tabs are deleted, can you move any of the icons in the Main tab around (i.e.; make them switch places) ?

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:31 am 
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1. Dragging from a folder that has my shortcuts I want to use on the shelf.

2. I highlight the tab in the menu and click the delete button to the right of it where you can move the tabs up or down etc. I start from the bottom and delete going up and leave the main tab.

When I created the new shelf I did test out dragging shortcuts, moving them around and was able to drag icons to change the look of the shortcut. Something is shutting down all ability to drag and drop of any kind once I alter anything from the default setup.


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:47 am 
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DarrowLykos wrote:
2. I highlight the tab in the menu and click the delete button to the right of it where you can move the tabs up or down etc. I start from the bottom and delete going up and leave the main tab.


Ah, so you're doing it from the Contents tab of the Shelf Properties dialog.

Instead of opening the Shelf Properties dialog and deleting the tabs from there, try closing Shelf Properties then right clicking the actual tab headers (tab name) in the Shelf itself and selecting 'Delete this tab' from the context menu that pops up. Do this for each of the tabs you don't want.

Are you now able to drag & drop?

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:54 am 
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And that is it!

Told ya the devil was in the details: here I deleted the tabs on the shelf itself using the right click context menus.

Turns out the bug causing this issue is in the Contents tab of the Shelf Properties dialog.

You caught a live bona fide bug (which I will fix in the next release)!

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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:55 am 
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This works :) I tested deleting all tabs this way. Making my own and then deleting the main one. I able to drag and drop now and move them around as before :) I will use this method from now on and only use the properties tab to make my tabs and name them. Thank you again !!!

Glad I could help find a bug even if inadvertently :)


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:06 am 
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Should I still mark this as solved? Not sure since we found a bug.


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 Post subject: Re: Drag & Drop still not working for my shelf.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:07 am 
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Nah, leave it as it is.

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