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 Post subject: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2025 4:49 pm 
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One last message from me on the site...
I understand that all my requests for improving and adding elements to a theme will not be acted upon by "Jorge" until I give in to downloading themes from the unofficial Winstep gallery.
I'm a jerk and I won't give in to blackmail...
I'll make one last request, though, which I hope will get a response. I don't understand why there isn't a mouseover on "WsCallLeftArrow" and "WsCallRightArrow" like you can find on "Rainlendar." It would be wise, and probably easy, to integrate it, like for example "WsCallLeftArrowM" and "WsCallRightArrowM," as you can also see for "WsPrefsM" and others. It's a detail that's been bothering me for a long time. As for my other requests, which I've made several times, I can do without them.
This is my final request, and "Jorge" will do as he wishes.
Despite the disagreements, I express my deepest respect for "Jorge" and the others (Moderators and Users)...


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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2025 8:14 pm 
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Nobody is "blackmailing" anybody, Picco, and you were never banned either, so stop playing the "woe is me" lol. It's just that I obviously don't feel like doing "favors" to someone that refuses to reciprocate when I ask him to do one for me. How would you feel if you had a "friend" who kept asking you for stuff but when you needed him he was nowhere to be found? Bet you wouldn't be too happy about him either.

I already explained my reasons for asking you to upload your themes to the Winstep gallery, and wether you believe it or not it's not even for me, it's because I REALLY hate to see good themes/art disappear forever - and I even explained why with the story of what happened to Skinz.org.

How would you feel if somebody could have saved the Mona Lisa from a fire but chose not to "because they didn't feel like it"?! Last month we were all one hair away from another disaster: it is nothing short of a miracle that Stardock was able to bring Wincustomize back.

On our last interaction here you also seemed to think that me and the moderator Nexter were playing some kind of "good cop, bad cop" routine on you when nothing could be further from the truth. I can only assume this came from the perspective of being an ex-cop, but I can assure you that not everything that glitters is gold.

As for mouse over bitmaps for the calendar arrows, it can be added. The reason it wasn't is because a) nobody had asked for it yet and b) desktop modules do not usually have mouseover bitmaps.

Anyway, I'm currently working on very complex stuff for the next release (having to do with per-monitor high DPI support), but I'll see what I can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 6:14 am 
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Since you never came back to read my reply (and it's been 20 days now) all I can do is assume you fell off a cliff or something... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 5:35 pm 
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Bonjour Jorge,
Du calme, bien sûr que j'ai lu votre réponse le jour même (07/05/2025 à 08h14), pas besoin d'être connecté pour lire...
Que voulez-vous que je réponde à ce tas de conneries sur la "Joconde" et bien d'autres de vos réponses...
Ah, si peut-être, A l'heure actuelle, avec toutes les tensions mondiales (Proche-Orient, Moyen-Orient, Chine, Russie, Ukraine, Etats-Unis, Europe et j'en passe) si une bombe nucléaire tombait sur Paris, on s'inquiéterait plus du nombre de mort que du sort de la "Joconde".
Je n'aime pas du tout vos réponses à mes posts qui sont toujours respectueux envers vous et vos modérateurs.
Jamais un mot amical ou respectueux, toujours un air condescendant, plein d'amertume et un humour qui frise la limite (Je comprends Ex-flic, tombé de la falaise, j'aime le soleil il désinfecte tout et tant d'autres)...
Je serai modérateur, je vous aurai déjà mis un avertissement...
Et vous savez quoi "Allez vous faire voir chez les "Papous" comme ont dit parfois en France.
Ma fois après tout ça, s'il vous arrive un jour de passer par "TOULOUSE en France", contactez-moi par mail, je me ferrai un plaisir de vous inviter au restaurant pour discuter amicalement bien sûr et passer un bon moment ensemble, je suis sérieux sans animosité...
Allez, sans rancune...
Cordialement, je signe...
Picco14.


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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 9:37 pm 
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Yeah, borderline humor, that's me. :D

Come on, you're not Asterix, don't use the sky about to fall on our heads as an excuse to do nothing lol. Just save the damn Mona Lisa already and stop procrastinating. :lol:

Plus, you're having fun, admit it, I don't need to be an ex-cop to recognize the MO.

Anyway, likewise, if you ever happen to pass through Lisbon or the whereabouts on holidays, I too would be happy to invite you to a nice restaurant by the beach for a bit of nicely flavored Portuguese food.

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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:37 am 
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Hey, if Paris were being nuked, none of us would have time or inclination to worry about the number of dead - we'd be joining them very quickly. :P (If we're lucky that is - nobody in their right mind would want to survive a nuke war.)

Sorry, I really can't take this business seriously. I looks to me too much like somebody's looking for attention... Hence, I shall refrain from further comment rather than further supplying any such attention.

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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:40 am 
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Picco14 wrote:
I'm a jerk and I won't give in to blackmail...


It's not because you are a jerk, it's in spite of you being a jerk. :P

As of next release (v25.7) you will have your calendar mouse over arrows (just use bitmaps WsCalLeftArrowM.png and WsCalRightArrowM.png in the theme, both must exist).

Just tested it using your Kal-El theme and it seems to be working as intended. You, of course, will have to wait for the official release, sorry (unless you want to do some beta testing).


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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:11 am 
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I read your reply before you deleted it, Picco, and let me tell you this. Customer or friends, whenever there is an exchange of something or an interaction between two people it becomes a relationship. Of what, call it whatever you want... business, personal, friendship, it does not matter for this point.

There is no blackmail here, there is simply this: if in a relationship you have someone giving everything and the other giving nothing then when the person giving everything says enough, either put up or shut up, that is not blackmail, that is justice in the face of a toxic relationship. Here I am not talking about the business/customer relationship between us, since I got paid and you got what you paid for so we are even - but anything you request after that is extra - I'm talking about the Winstep dev/themes designer if you want to call it that.

So, you refuse to upload the themes to the Winstep gallery and I refuse to do what you ask. Simple justice, not blackmail at all. Just don't pretend to be the victim here, because you would lose nothing by doing what I asked you to do - and you would always have control over your themes. You just don't want to and you enjoy saying "no".

I recognize the dynamic here, unfortunately I have seen it before. Especially when after actually giving in to what you requested, you STILL complain ("wow it took you a year"). So typical of toxic relationships. :D

P.S. I didn't mind the publicity you made for your friend. And please stop with the quotes, I am not "Jorge", my name really is Jorge.

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 Post subject: Re: Banned without really being banned
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 1:09 pm 
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Bonjour Jorge...
J'écris en français, pour moi c'est plus simple et je crois savoir que vous le comprenez assez sans avoir vraiment besoin d'une traduction automatique.
Vous avez raison, je suis désolé mais non je ne cherche pas une relation toxique avec vous, bien au contraire.
Je n'en veux pas davantage comme vous le prétendez, les deux seuls points qui me frustraient un peu dans la construction d'un thème, je l'avoue vous les avez résolu à savoir la possibilité de changer la couleur de l'heure dans le systray de la barre des tâches et la réaction des boutons sur le calendrier et je vous en remercie grandement.
Pour les deux ou trois autres demandes concernant le menu, c'était du facultatif et sans importance réellement.
Je vous fait remarquer que je n'ai pas participer à la campagne de posts concernant la disparition des icônes dans le systray car j'avais immédiatement compris que le code de la barre des tâches Win11 avait changé et que le logiciel winstep n'était pas responsable de cet état de faits.
Vous avez trouvé une solution intermédiaire, l'engrenage dans la barre des tâches pour windows 11 faisait le travail et cela me convenait amplement, je sais que vous travaillez ardemment pour résoudre tout les problèmes qu'on apportaient Windows 11 et je suis conscient que la tâche est très difficile.
Bon, en tout état de cause, je n'ai pas la soi-disant 25.7 (Bêta) et ne peut tester les changements que vous avez apporté sur les icônes systray et les boutons over sur le calendrier.
Je me doutais bien que vous aviez lu le message, je l'ai supprimé car j'ai jugé que je n'avais pas de raison de m'en prendre aussi durement à vous et que la "publicité" était déplacée et n'avait pas sa place dans le post. J'avoue également qu'en faisant cette démarche, j'ai pensé avec une petite pointe de malice sans méchanceté que j'aurai un retour de votre part et matière à vous répondre.
J'aime Winstep, la conception du logiciel à pouvoir faire des thèmes. L'histoire de mettre ou non les thèmes dans la galerie winstep est tout autre, oui j'ai procrastiné histoire de gagner du temps car je n'avais pas de réponses ou d'explications concrètes à vous donner sur le coup.
Vos demandes par message privé ont été agréables et sympathiques même le fait de me transmettre une licence lorsques la mienne se terminait. J'ai répondu à vos messages privés et la conversation s'est déroulée dans la sérénité.
Après réflection, j'avais vraiment décidé de proposer des thèmes dans la galerie winstep ainsi que de continuer sur wincustomize.
Mais entre temps, par la suite, le dialogue et les propos se sont dégradés non pas par messages privés mais sur le forum ou les forums. Votre insistance à mettre des thèmes sur la galerie de thèmes Winstep et de rendre un service pour un service à produit chez moi l'effet inverse et m'a fortement chauffé les oreilles. De ces conversations il en a résulté de ma part l'arrêt complet de téléchargement de thèmes même sur Wincustomize et ne proposer que des captures d'écran.
La situation peut changer, si tout les deux, nous faisons un effort de compréhension l'un pour l'autre et ne pas se lancer des attaques perpétuelles qui n'ont aucune raison d'être. Revenons à un dialogue serein et amical et le temps feras les choses dans le cas ou cela vous importe bien sûr.
Tout autre chose, je ne comprend pas votre remarque sur les guillemets de votre prénom comme si vous exprimiez un sentiment d'humiliation. En aucun cas, je n'est voulu vous faire ressentir celà, il est courant en langue française de mettre des guillemets ou pas sur un nom propre ou prénom pour le distinguer du reste de la phrase sans arrière pensée. Mais si cela vous dérange vraiment, je tacherais de m'en souvenir et de ne plus l'appliquer dans les posts suivants s'ils devaient y en avoir d'autres. Ah, au fait, moi c'est "René" ou René "Picco14" ou Picco14, peut m'importe ça ne m'affecte pas.
Mon plus profond respect Jorge...


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