I'm using Nexus Ultimate on Windows 10 and a theme I had from an earlier build of Windows is causing me problems now. I have multiple docks with one acting a system tray. It works fine, except for the following:

When I click on "system tray expand" icon, in the past, I would get a box showing the system tray hidden icons directly above it. Now, when I click on it, the box for it appears at the opposite end of the screen in the top left (I have the system tray docked to the bottom and shifted to the right). If I click on the icon again, it disappears. If I click on it a 3rd time, usually the tray appears as it's supposed to, though sometimes it takes 5 clicks before it finally shows up properly.

This has made using it very tedious, is there some way to prevent the system tray hidden icon box from appearing in the upper left of the screen instead of directly above the icon like it's supposed to?

Which means it did not before. What changed in your system between before and now?

I upgraded from Windows 10 20H2 to 22H2.

So once again something Microsoft changed...

Anyway, I'll have a look at the code and see what can be done... most likely you will need to install a new version once one is available though.

That's no problem, I renewed my license today because I thought it was just my old version being outdated, but the exact same problem persists. And yes, I don't blame you for problems Microsoft creates, but I figure if I'm paying for updates, this could be examined. Thanks for looking into it.

You only have 1 monitor, right?

Yes, just one screen, though it's ultrawide.

No, no, no, no - Like I'm sure a fair number of users here, I have Win 10 22H2 here and absolutely no problems with the sys tray, albeit in the taskbar, on two systems. (Maybe something changes when it's placed into a dock?) Although I'm always happy to go with 'IBM' - 'I Blame Microsoft' - I don't think they can be blamed in this case. More likely, something else must have changed on the OP's system other than going from 20H2 to 22H2. Or something in his configuration perhaps?

That's exactly what I'm talking about, it's a dock being used as the system tray. It's not the default Windows system tray. I have the default taskbar / systray completely hidden.

Wrong! I'm not talking about the Win default taskbar but the *NextSTART* taskbar. Now unless I'm very much mistaken, the code for the sys tray should essentially be the same for the NextSTART taskbar and the dock.

Maybe that explains the confusion, I'm on Winstep Nexus Ultimate, not Winstep Xtreme, I don't have a Nextstart taskbar. I have no idea how similar the code is, but I'm encountering the problem either way and the only thing that's changed for me is going from 20H2 to 22H2, though granted, that's a big change.

Yeah, I knew you're on Nexus Ultimate. But I don't think that there's any great difference in the code between the sys tray in the dock and in the NextSTART taskbar, other than allowing for integration.

Your update from 20H2 to 22H2 should not have made the slightest difference in relation to Nexus Ultimate. I had the same update on one of my laptops about early 2023 or possibly very late 2022. There's never been the slightest difference to any part of Winstep following that, so I feel that the explanation lies elsewhere. However, next time I get to use Windows, I'll set up a dock purely for sys tray and see what happens. (Nexus is identical in Ultimate and Xtreme.)

The problem is that the systray expansion window always opens at a specific place in relation to the Windows taskbar/systray.

Because of this, it has to be relocated to the new location, but keep in mind the window also has a slide in animation that can complicate things further, etc... Not only that, but to properly relocate the window the Winstep application needs to know its size, etc

So, it *can* happen that for some reason (like a timing issue) something in this chain of events fails and the window ends up being positioned at the wrong place.

Be glad the systray expansion window can be relocated. Some windows, like the one used for the Windows Start Menu, cannot because MS uses a transparent window the size of the desktop as the background of the Start Menu.

No need, I stand corrected. I made a completely untouched install of 22H2 on a separate system and the system tray worked as intended, I couldn't replicate the problem, even when loading my old theme. It makes me wonder what the hell I could have done that it keeps popping up in the upper left corner first before appearing in the right place.

I have replaced the normal taskbar with Open-Shell, but that's something I did on 20H22 also. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, I'll have to experiment. If you have any ideas on what could be causing this, let me know.

Well I appreciate you looking into it. Since apparently the problem is related to my configuration, I have no idea what I changed that wasn't the same on 20H22, but it's apparently something.

Well, Im glad that turned out OK. All the same, earlier on I got into Windows and set up a sys tray dock, with Nexus control icon. Expand worked perfectly as it should. I would have taken a screenshot but haven't anything set up to deal with that yet, just my security and privacy apps and a couple of Linux VMs. Anyway, as it turned out don't think they were needed now.

I think it's remotely possible it might be Open-Shell but also think it unlikely. I rather think it might be something in your dock configuration. That's always the first place to look really. Look especially at all settings relating to positioning etc. Also anything relating to the Expand button.