You do know that you can have sub-docks on the Shelf tabs, no?

Not so fast with the worshipping. The capability is there, but in that version it is still pretty awkward: you need to create a new sub-dock, fill it up with stuff (at least one item) and then drag that dock's Nexus control icon to a regular tab in the Shelf.

Serves me right for not having re-visited that feature before. If it's any consolation, in-Shelf dock management has been GREATLY improved in the next release.

whenever i rerun windows and after i have installed winstep and hidden my desktop icons, i create a folder on the desktop called desktop shortcuts. i drag all of most used programs shortcuts into it and make it the bottom most icon on the nexus dock. don't know if this will help you, but it is an idea.

Too bad all shortcuts are already inside the shelf

no they are not, there are plenty of apps where you have to go to the programs menu and sendto desktop as shortcut. plus with accessing them form the workshelf you get everything else that is on your desktop listed in that tab, unless you want to create a tab just for shortcuts. either method works.

kutagh, now on that desktop shorcuts tab i only created it to show you how it would look no the shelf. other than desktop, main, and themes my tabs on the shelf all point to my other drives. even for doc's they are a folder on the nexus dock. nexus is recycler, Docs, control panel, network, computer, firefox, outlook, and desktop shortcuts.

I understand what you mean but I'm looking for something different than you are talking about I don't want more tabs on my shelf, I want to be able to categorize WITHIN a tab (just like on a dock with sub-docks).

Let's show what I already got:

once i started using winstep what i wanted to be able to do was create a single subdock with all of my program shorcuts on it. i gave up on that idea when i realized that i would have one long line of shortcuts. what i would like to see is the subdocks configurable so you the enduser can say i only wand 9 per row in the subdock. what i truely miss is in xp and vista being able to create a folder that did not have the navigation window, so all you saw was a folder with your shortcuts or files in it. it also took less space on the desktop. stockdocks fences comes close but you cannot hide it.