The following is simple in practice, but convoluted in explanation...

My brain death over renewing my subscription notwithstanding (I have a note from my doctor about that...), is there a likelihood of being to delete the default workshelf?

Why?

First, I have 3 monitors on a Sapphire 6850 card... Windows assigns their order one way, NextStart lists them in reverse order, the ATI utility assigns them in another. That seems to depend on one being connected to the DisplayPort xxxxx, and then having that dongled to a DVI-D cable. The HDMI output is not in use and the other two DVI outputs are... Skip that part...

Well, on a multiple monitor setup, and the way in which Windows 8 seems to be headed as far as what taskbar gets assigned to which monitor in what order - there's not a lot of need for a group of shelf tabs showing icons that bring up floating thumbnails on the display which is meant to be "programs and windows only"... the largest of the 3, an HP 2310. The oldest (a Mac 20" Cinema Display) is supposed to be the display assigned the "main taskbar". All well and good. NS and AMD assign the displays in proper order. Windows 8 does not.




Since I cannot assign any defined distance the enabled workshelf is to be away from the screen edge on either displays #2 or #3, having it autohide and leave its tab still visible is the only way of reducing its visible footprint on. But I cannot have the workshelf popping up and down, being one height or another, rearranging things on the 2310 as I'm editing hundreds of photos, websites, Word files, Spreadsheets and such. The 20" Cinema Display is meant to take all that space and keep it away from the other two...

Windows 8 charms are still on the HP 2310 display. Same for Metro UI and Start Screen. That's exactly how I need it. The NextStart Taskbar's "Start" button gives me the old drop-down menu, Start Menu folders and such.

What this all boils down to is: there's no need to even have the NS Workshelf listed when there's no room or need for it. Yet, it cannot be deleted. For the space it needs, the tabs, icons of various sizes, labels to be tweaked... having Object Dock run the Tasklist, and Tiles give me all the visual information I need on the Cinema Display is just what I'm looking for.



The display ordering and other issues are not a Winstep matter. I just believe in what you wrote on the Winstep.net site homepage:

1. Windows and AMD Catalyst might order the displays according to some possible weird factors, such as the order in which the monitors were physically added, etc...

Up until the previous version, Winstep listed the monitors using whatever order Windows used to enumerate them. Running a three multi-monitor display myself, this always bugged me a bit.

Winstep now explicitly sorts monitors in the the order that makes the most sense for us humans: top to bottom, left to right. So, the first monitor listed will always be your leftmost monitor, and the last monitor listed your rightmost.

2. I certainly do not agree with you that the Shelf does not make sense in Windows 8. It might not make sense for *you*, but it certainly is a must - and a huge productivity boost - for many others.

This said, Winstep Xtreme is modular. You can turn off the things you are not particularly interested in.

In fact, there are a LOT of ways to turn off the Shelf, and I'm very surprised you didn't find any of them. The first, and most obvious, is through the Dock & Shelves tab in WorkShelf Preferences - just clear the 'Enable' setting for the Shelf.

You can also right click ANY dock, open the 'Dock and Shelf Management' sub-menu and select 'Close Shelf'.

You can do the same thing by right clicking the Shelf and opening the 'Dock and Shelf Management' sub-menu that is also found in the Shelf's right click context menus.