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 Post subject: Nexus question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:18 am 
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I've been running Dell Dock but recently added a non-dell laptop. I love the thin border and the ability of Dell Dock to display horizontal sub-menus.

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My question is can Nexus duplicate what I want to do? It's for a Windows 8 64 bit laptop.


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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:46 pm 
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Yes, it can.
The thin border (or thick or whatever) resides in the purview of the selected theme; Winstep is perfectly capable of utilising any kind of design.
The parallel sub-dock is also possible, even though there is a glitch where the subdock will not slide downwards, but that is very easy to fix and will be done in a coming release.
I hope that covered everything.
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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:52 am 
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One thing I'll point out. Microsuck broke transparency in Windows 8 (well, they took it out for some reason), so in Windows 8, Winstep products don't have it.

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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:09 am 
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vectornut wrote:
One thing I'll point out. Microsuck broke transparency in Windows 8 (well, they took it out for some reason), so in Windows 8, Winstep products don't have it.


One thing I'll point out: Microsoft broke the glass effect, not transparencies. Basically, the effect where you had a "frosted glass" look under a transparency. So, now things that were supposed to have that look, now just look completely transparent or completely opaque or God knows what, depending on how applications handled that internally.
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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:50 pm 
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microsour didn't break it, they removed it.

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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:06 pm 
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So skagon, you can do it?

Would be helpful if you said how

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 Post subject: Re: Nexus question
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:29 pm 
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Actually, I didn't say it can be done. I just said Microsoft broke (or removed, if you prefer that term) the "glass" effect.
In essence, however, the glass effect was a plain opacity transform, with a prefixed background blur and a prefixed opacity map (assigned to a plain greyscale bitmap). The big benefit of it being done internally was that, since the effect requires a dynamic image of what's under the affected area so that the blur and opacity transforms can be applied, the windows compositor which was performing the effect, already had all the necessary information required to do it.
It *could* be re-done programmatically, but the programme doing it would have to request the information from the Windows compositor (I believe Microsoft calls it DWM or something), perform the transformations locally and apply the result as a "skin".
For the time being, varying the opacity of a window is possible programmatically, but there's no blur behind it, so the result doesn't look like the "glass" effect.
Unfortunately, if Jorge doesn't add the necessary code to do it internally, there's nothing you can do with a Winstep theme to replicate that effect.
On the plus side, if he adds the necessary code, he could add some better code to allow people to select what kind of transform they want. So, instead of a prefixed blur, we could have, say, Gaussian blur of variable radius, motion blur, hue shift, gamma shift, saturation shift, lightness variation, or literally any kind of image transformation we want.
That could lead to some very interesting themes, if you ask me.

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