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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:02 pm 
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No offense to you designers.
But

I have just started trying to use Winstep, You claim that it is compatible with Windows XP Pro x64 version, But I am not so sure.

Minor Problems.
The shelf does not work like your instruction claims.
Issue 1
To re organize a shelf the instructions state,
"You can re-arrange the order of Regular shelf items by dragging items and inserting them in the position you want. If you press CTRL, the item will be copied instead of moved (an easy way to duplicate shelf items should you ever wish to do so). Items in Folder shelves cannot be re-arranged because their sort order is always alphabetical."
By trying to drag an Icon "item" the shelf makes a copy and does not even make the copy in the position I placed it in.
Issue 2
Control Panel Shelf,
The Control Panel only shows the 32 bit cpl icons, it does not show the icons in the regular x64 Control Panel.
Issue 3
The Shelf steals focus and does not return it to last Process,
If you click on the shelf tab for any reason or mouse over the focus goes to the shelf, after the shelf minimizes it still maintains the focus.
Issue 4
NestStart start bar does not follow all the preferences in the settings, minimize, focus(always on top).

forum issue.
you need to upgrade your search Engine capabilities. This one is pitiful.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:48 am 
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No offense to you designers.


None taken. :D

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By trying to drag an Icon "item" the shelf makes a copy and does not even make the copy in the position I placed it in.


I think the key here - please correct me if I'm wrong - is the term 'Regular Shelf'. Some of the shelves in WorkShelf are NOT Regular shelves (for instance, the Desktop shelf), but rather shelves displaying the contents of physical or virtual folders in your computer.

The contents of non-regular shelves are ALWAYS displayed in alphabetical order (virtual items first, then folders, then files), which means dragging an item into the Desktop shelf will NOT place it where you just dropped it, but rather where it belongs alphabetically.

Other Virtual Shelves (for instance, Control Panel) are fixed content and do not even accept dropped items (neither does Explorer, by the way).

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The Control Panel only shows the 32 bit cpl icons


Ah, yes, know issue. Unfortunately that's all 32 bit applications get when enumerating the contents of the Control Panel through the shell (in other words, this is actually a Windows issue - I think Microsoft could have done a better job in terms of backwards compatibility with 32 bit applications, but I guess backwards compatibility is not too high on their priority list these days).

Here is how you can get around this issue:

1 - Create a new, Regular, Shelf and name it Control Panel.
2 - Open the Windows Control Panel in Explorer.
3 - Select all items in the Control Panel Explorer window and drag them into the new, blank, Control Panel shelf.

You can do the same with NextSTART: just create an empty menu instead.

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If you click on the shelf tab for any reason or mouse over the focus goes to the shelf, after the shelf minimizes it still maintains the focus.


Hmmm... Nobody ever complained about this, but I see your point. I'll see what I can do about this while Winstep Xtreme 8.8 is still in beta.

On a related note, the next version changes the rules a bit in terms of WHEN to auto-collapse the shelf and docks, which might automatically resolve your issue: on 8.5 the shelf and docks hide automatically, after a user-specified delay, when you move the mouse pointer away from them. On the upcomming 8.8 release, both the docks and the shelf hide automatically ONLY when another window has the focus.

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NestStart start bar does not follow all the preferences in the settings, minimize, focus(always on top).


Not sure I understand. Can you give me some steps to reproduce, please?

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you need to upgrade your search Engine capabilities. This one is pitiful.


Alas, this forum is powered by PHPBB, one of the most popular Open Source forum engines. You will have to complain to them, sorry. :wink:

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