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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:29 pm 
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Hi,

New guy here. I've been using Nexus Ultimate for close to a week now and I must say I'm impressed and pleased. I wish I had found it before ObjectDock. I was a paying OD user for a while but it kept locking up and was rather slow. When I wanted to upgrade they had implemented their Impulse installer thing which I had no use for so I quit using anything by StarDock. I went dockless for a while until I saw Nexus Ultimate on sale at BitsDuJour.com, liked what I read and bought it. I started a request list but found that some of the things I wanted were available after I dug around in preferences. Here are a couple that aren't (maybe).

1) This is trivial but... It would be cool if under "Preferences > Themes > Colorize Theme" there was a checkbox that said "Include Wallpaper" so one could colorize the shelf, dock & wallpaper in one fell swoop.

2) When colorizing theme under "Preferences > Themes > Colorize Theme" please also colorize the preferences, open/close & scroll buttons on the shelf. It just looks weird otherwise IMO.

3) Under "Preferences > Docks & Shelves > Dock Properties > Effects > Magnify > Effect Settings > Magnification Span" please add "1 Icon" to the dropdown.

4) Under "Preferences > Docks & Shelves > Shelf Properties > Position" please add the "Align shelf to which side of the screen?" slider underneath the "Attach to which screen edge?" dropdown. I guess it could be grayed out if "Span the full screen width when docked" is checked. This would make it much easier to center the shelf. I have to drag each side bit by bit until I get it the way I want. Can the shelf be dragged from side to side when docked without affecting its width?

That's it for now, there are other little things I noticed but can't remember right now. Thanks for a great product!

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:39 pm 
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Hi,

New guy here. I've been using Nexus Ultimate for close to a week now and I must say I'm impressed and pleased. I wish I had found it before ObjectDock. I was a paying OD user for a while but it kept locking up and was rather slow. When I wanted to upgrade they had implemented their Impulse installer thing which I had no use for so I quit using anything by StarDock. I went dockless for a while until I saw Nexus Ultimate on sale at BitsDuJour.com, liked what I read and bought it. I started a request list but found that some of the things I wanted were available after I dug around in preferences. Here are a couple that aren't (maybe).

1) This is trivial but... It would be cool if under "Preferences > Themes > Colorize Theme" there was a checkbox that said "Include Wallpaper" so one could colorize the shelf, dock & wallpaper in one fell swoop.

2) When colorizing theme under "Preferences > Themes > Colorize Theme" please also colorize the preferences, open/close & scroll buttons on the shelf. It just looks weird otherwise IMO.

3) Under "Preferences > Docks & Shelves > Dock Properties > Effects > Magnify > Effect Settings > Magnification Span" please add "1 Icon" to the dropdown.

4) Under "Preferences > Docks & Shelves > Shelf Properties > Position" please add the "Align shelf to which side of the screen?" slider underneath the "Attach to which screen edge?" dropdown. I guess it could be grayed out if "Span the full screen width when docked" is checked. This would make it much easier to center the shelf. I have to drag each side bit by bit until I get it the way I want. Can the shelf be dragged from side to side when docked without affecting its width?

That's it for now, there are other little things I noticed but can't remember right now. Thanks for a great product!


agree completely with 1 and 2. i have evolve recolored red to work with my main desktop theme, but the the preference button and the arrows on the right side of workshelf are still blue.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Agree with 2 and 4. However, having a magnification span of a single icon is simply not feasible for lots of technical reasons. Try using the Zoom effect instead, with a large magnitude.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:24 pm 
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Agree with 2 and 4. However, having a magnification span of a single icon is simply not feasible for lots of technical reasons. Try using the Zoom effect instead, with a large magnitude.


sorry i was in a hurry this morning. i meant 1 and 2. edited my post.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:40 am 
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winstep wrote:
Agree with 2 and 4. However, having a magnification span of a single icon is simply not feasible for lots of technical reasons. Try using the Zoom effect instead, with a large magnitude.


If you say it can't be done, that's cool. I tried Zoom & that'll do. I kinda miss the way the dock expands to keep the icons on the dock in Magnify mode & wish I could specify how big to zoom to (96px, 128px, etc), but otherwise it works dandy. The upside of using Zoom instead of Magnify is that I can now make my dock & shelf match in terms of icon mouseover effect, which I do really like.

I have a question though. I set my dock up then chose "Make Shelf Tab from Dock" & I noticed that the Zoom effect was not as high quality on the shelf as it was the dock. I figured they would look exactly the same since I had just made that tab straight from the dock, not the case (see attached screenshot). Why does this happen?

Some info: The icon in the screenshot is an ICO file with 16x16, 24x24, 32x32, 48x48, 128x128 & 256x256 sizes. After I switched both the dock & shelf to a 256x256 PNG of the same icon they both displayed that icon identically & very well.


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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:45 am 
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winstep wrote:
Agree with 2 and 4. However, having a magnification span of a single icon is simply not feasible for lots of technical reasons. Try using the Zoom effect instead, with a large magnitude.


You don't like 1? Everything else can be colorized :)

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:49 am 
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There are several problems regarding colorizing the wallpaper. First, unlike Winstep objects which are under direct control of the application itself and can thus be colorized in memory, a wallpaper is a 'set and forget' thing. Once set it's managed by Windows.

A colorize setting for wallpapers would involve creating a secondary wallpaper bitmap, then the user could simply manually change the wallpaper to something else and would/would not expect the new wallpaper to be colorized, etc... Not worth the effort, IMO. Windows 7 also allows you to colorize the UI but not the wallpaper.

As for quality of the icon for the Zoom effect on the Shelf being different, that has partially to do with ICO files having different set sizes. When an exact size match is not found, the icon is automatically scaled up or down as required, resulting in a slightly blurred image.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:22 am 
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winstep wrote:
There are several problems regarding colorizing the wallpaper. First, unlike Winstep objects which are under direct control of the application itself and can thus be colorized in memory, a wallpaper is a 'set and forget' thing. Once set it's managed by Windows.

A colorize setting for wallpapers would involve creating a secondary wallpaper bitmap, then the user could simply manually change the wallpaper to something else and would/would not expect the new wallpaper to be colorized, etc... Not worth the effort, IMO. Windows 7 also allows you to colorize the UI but not the wallpaper.

As for quality of the icon for the Zoom effect on the Shelf being different, that has partially to do with ICO files having different set sizes. When an exact size match is not found, the icon is automatically scaled up or down as required, resulting in a slightly blurred image.


Ok, no wallpaper colorizing. It does sound like it would get a bit confusing after a while. Save that task for GIMP.

I suspected that had something to do with the ICO having different sized images whereas the PNG only had one size & needed to be downsized.

Any chance you might add a way to choose a file manager other than system default when opening a folder? I would just set the one I use to replace Explorer windows but I haven't found one that catches them all. How about a "Refresh this Tab" in the "rightclick > Tabs" menu of the shelf? Specifically for those instances when a half thumbnail is generated before the file is finished saving.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:10 am 
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Dear Winstep team, I see that (as promised) you have implemented many of my desired options for which I am grateful. Reviewing some of the changes I am pleasantly surprised though if given a choice I would implement some differently.

To conserve space, I would much rather see launcher/running tasks implemented as to not have an open application appear in the running tasks list if it is already present on the launcher. The running indicator should be sign enough that it is active.

Example: You start a single instance of Firefox from the launcher. Firefox opens and the running indicator is displayed beneath the appropriate icon. It is not displayed in the running tasks panel. Clicking the same launch button again cycles through "Bring to Front / Minimize" When minimized, I would personally again like to see it not appear in the running tasks, but this is a personal preference.

Shift clicking the Firefox launch icon starts the second instance. Possibly, a different running indicator could be defined for multiple instances.

Left clicking the icon from this point on should cycle through "Last active instance of firefox / Previous active instance of firefox / ...and so on"

Clicking and holding down the left mouse button on the launch icon should bring up the thumbnail/preview list.

I realize that most, if not all of this is already implemented within the running tasks panel, but the way it's done tends to consume a lot of desktop space.


If you really boil it down to bare basics, what I am asking for is a "Do not display launcher linked applications in running tasks list" checkbox :)


Another thing I've noticed is: there's a "Open grouped applications menu on mouseover" and there's a "Show window previews on mouseover", but clicking the grouped icon always brings up just the list. Could you please also add an option to display the thumbnails on click?


With kind regards,

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:27 am 
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The ability to have all icons in the workshelf centralised, where at the minute all icons start from the left side, having them centralised would look much cooler if you only have a few icons in a particular shelf.
Example:
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 Post subject: Local clock, date
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:11 am 
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When Translating into other languages ​​would be good if the clock and date settings could be adapted to the locale or the menu to change it. Prepared the photographs, that is what I mean.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1880/clock02.png

In addition, it would be good if every minute it would be defined separately to say the exact time in my language. The conjugation in Hungarian sounds pretty lame.


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 Post subject: Re: Local clock, date
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:26 am 
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When Translating into other languages ​​would be good if the clock and date settings could be adapted to the locale or the menu to change it.


That screenshot is too small and I'm not sure what the problem is, since the date should be displayed in the format you have specified in your Windows Region and Language settings.

If you open Control Panel -> Region and Language, what is the format specified in Long Date?

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In addition, it would be good if every minute it would be defined separately to say the exact time in my language. The conjugation in Hungarian sounds pretty lame.


How about you providing the sound files, then? :wink: Please check THIS post to figure out how.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:06 pm 
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I sent your post to a new topic in the Translations forum HERE.

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 Post subject: Re: Winstep Wish List
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I would really really love to have the ability to switch off the automatic separators.

I have the philosophy that I dont believe in system tray icons - everything you have running should be visible and beautiful, not hidden away.

So, I like all my system tray icons visible at the same time. Fair enough, winstep does this.

But it adds a separator between the tasks and the system tray, which is definately not what I want. I want everything unified in one seamless bar of icons.

Yeah, call me crazy, but thats what I want. I would love the option to switch off the default separators entirely. Even if its a semi hidden advanced option, it would just make my day!

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 Post subject: Desktop Items Getting stuck behind the dock
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:26 pm 
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I want the option so desktop items do not get stuck behind the dock like this.

VIEW THE IMAGE FOR THE PROBLEM

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The only way to fix this is to enable in preferances,

*'Prevent maximized windows from overlapping the dock'

Then you get this problem, you can't properly maximise windows because the dock is always there, i don't want to see the dock at all when a window is maximised.

PLEASE SEE THE PROBLEM BELOW

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*PLEASE FIX THIS WINSTEP IT IS A PAIN.

I also started a topic about this here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4257


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