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 Post subject: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:28 am 
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Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to change my Winstep files location from:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Winstep
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C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\My Documents\Winstep

I looked around in the settings for a files location setting but didn't find one. Is this something I would have to reinstall Nexus Ultimate to accomplish? During install is there a checkbox for "install for all users or just me"? I would like to have these files in My Documents under my user account because I'm the only one that uses it & I wouldn't have to think about where my Winstep files are. Plus noone else could accidentally delete them.

Does Nexus Ultimate make use of Local Settings or Application Data folders? I looked but didn't see anything. My OS is Windows XP sp3.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:08 am 
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No, there is no Everyone/Just me setting to check during installation, and there is no setting in Nexus either, and you can't do anything to change it.
I have to say that the choice to put this folder in the All Users profile instead of the User profile pisses me off too. But I don't use very often this folder, so I got used to it.

Although, a setting during installation that would ask to install for Everyone or Just me would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:29 am 
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That kinda royally sucks, I don't use the All Users profile folder at all unless I am forced to. Please add the option to change the location of the Winstep folder either during installation or in the settings dialog.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:19 am 
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No.

And no for a very simple reason: Winstep applications are multi-user compatible. Each user has their very own individual settings.

However, common stuff like themes, language files and things that the user can modify must be shared between all users. Otherwise Nexus Ultimate might crash when you login as another user because it cannot find the default themes and other files it needs to run properly...

Personally I am of the opinion that all program settings and files should remain in one single place (as they did in pre-Vista times), but Microsoft prevented that when it begun enforcing C:\Program Files\ as a Read-only folder in Vista.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:49 am 
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Ok then :(

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:05 pm 
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winstep wrote:
No.

And no for a very simple reason: Winstep applications are multi-user compatible. Each user has their very own individual settings.

However, common stuff like themes, language files and things that the user can modify must be shared between all users. Otherwise Nexus Ultimate might crash when you login as another user because it cannot find the default themes and other files it needs to run properly...

Personally I am of the opinion that all program settings and files should remain in one single place (as they did in pre-Vista times), but Microsoft prevented that when it begun enforcing C:\Program Files\ as a Read-only folder in Vista.


agree with jorge on this one. pre-vista program file folders that could be copies to restore settings, themes, and any other number of things. now in a lot of cases only certain parts of the files you want to keep between windows installs are located in a folder say in program files, more you want to keep are located in say program data, and some like itunes are located in the user files.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:51 pm 
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T3STY wrote:
No, there is no Everyone/Just me setting to check during installation, and there is no setting in Nexus either, and you can't do anything to change it.


So basically what you are saying is that even though I installed Winstep Xtreme on my Admininstrator account for myself, other users on the same pc are stuck using Winstep Xtreme whether they want to or not?

I knew there was a reason I was told to stay away from this. It's kind of BS that it was built that way because it did not have to be that way because your kind of forcing your application on those that may not want to use it. In reading this forum, all that stuff about "it has to be that way or your pc may crash because Windows would not be able to find some of the files in between logging in and out" is just candy coated BS, it's just Winsteps way of imposing their software on your entire system, it could have been programmed with a just me or all users button, they just did not do it.

I build themes, docks and gadgets and so forth and without Winstep installed I can have a COMPLETELY customized desktop with whatever I want on it while NOT imposing on the other users of the same system.

I would urge Winstep's programmers to get this figured out because I now feel like I just flushed my hard earned money down the toilet for this software but unlike Winstep I will not force something on others that do not want to use it, Winstep will be removed from my system and I will not try it or recommed it to anyone until it is programmed properly with the option for one or all users.. :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:23 pm 
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LOL...

...let me guess... you want your money back? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:32 pm 
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edee wrote:
T3STY wrote:
No, there is no Everyone/Just me setting to check during installation, and there is no setting in Nexus either, and you can't do anything to change it.


So basically what you are saying is that even though I installed Winstep Xtreme on my Admininstrator account for myself, other users on the same pc are stuck using Winstep Xtreme whether they want to or not?

I knew there was a reason I was told to stay away from this. It's kind of BS that it was built that way because it did not have to be that way because your kind of forcing your application on those that may not want to use it. In reading this forum, all that stuff about "it has to be that way or your pc may crash because Windows would not be able to find some of the files in between logging in and out" is just candy coated BS, it's just Winsteps way of imposing their software on your entire system, it could have been programmed with a just me or all users button, they just did not do it.

I build themes, docks and gadgets and so forth and without Winstep installed I can have a COMPLETELY customized desktop with whatever I want on it while NOT imposing on the other users of the same system.

I would urge Winstep's programmers to get this figured out because I now feel like I just flushed my hard earned money down the toilet for this software but unlike Winstep I will not force something on others that do not want to use it, Winstep will be removed from my system and I will not try it or recommed it to anyone until it is programmed properly with the option for one or all users.. :evil:


that is incorrect. in 7 just like in vista you can setup different user accounts to either share files and programs, or you can setup user accounts that share nothing at all. the reasoning for the later was so people did not have to install two or more copies of windows for different users to be able to install only what they want to use. so basically it sounds like you're just too lazy to set up windows properly for each user. as for winstep assuming install for all users so do over half of the programs out there, so there goes your argument there. plus if you actually created themes, docks, icons, etc... you know full well even if a program installs for all users on a computer you can disable it in each individual account you don't want it in. so another case of you just being too lazy to configure items.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
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skagon wrote:
LOL...

...let me guess... you want your money back? :lol:

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No ....... it seems Winstep needs it more than I.
When they get it figured out I just get a cracked copy .... LMAO!


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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:55 pm 
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while we are at it two more things. first calling someone names shows that you know that your argument doesn't hold water. second talking about getting a cracked version leads me to believe you are either the jerk from the other day or at least working with him.

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I knew there was a reason I was told to stay away from this. It's kind of BS that it was built that way because it did not have to be that way because your kind of forcing your application on those that may not want to use it.


i lied two more items while we are at it. first i seriously doubt you were told to stay away from winstep products. second if you had gone through the forum as you claimed you would of seen that jorge just did a major overhaul of the g.u.i. / preferences while still adding more eyecandy for us. you cannot seriously expect him to think of everything while doing a major updating like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:33 pm 
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edee wrote:
So basically what you are saying is that even though I installed Winstep Xtreme on my Admininstrator account for myself, other users on the same pc are stuck using Winstep Xtreme whether they want to or not?


Jeezus. There is a BIG difference between being *available* to other users and being FORCED on other users.

Winstep stores the auto-run settings in the HKCU part of the registry. What this means is that each user on a system may chose to run Winstep at startup OR NOT. Nobody is forced to run it.

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When they get it figured out I just get a cracked copy .... LMAO!


Yeah, very funny. You know what, since that's the way you think, I'm sure you will also have no objections to work for me in exchange for NOTHING. Cook my meals, wash my clothes... Heck, you could even pay my rent! How's that? :P

And by the way, your email address is not on the registered users database.

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
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Jeezus. There is a BIG difference between being *available* to other users and being FORCED on other users.

Winstep stores the auto-run settings in the HKCU part of the registry. What this means is that each user on a system may chose to run Winstep at startup OR NOT. Nobody is forced to run it.


Why not just SIMPLY add check boxes for "all users" or "just me" to the installation part of the program? why must I have to go and hunt and peck to shut it off for other users on my machine? ....... It's not that I do not know how or where to look ...... all I am saying is that it is a big f!$king hassle. If I pay for your product it should be a no brainer to use, I or other users, especially those less savy shouldn't have to go poking around especially in sensitive parts of their systems to "make adjustments"

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And by the way, your email address is not on the registered users database.

Is it against the law to register for the forum with a different email address than what I registered the program with? Don't worry bud, I wouldn't deny you that opportunity to make a few bucks, my copy is registered. I wouldn't tell you that I have NOT used a cracked copy before just to try the full version before I bought it though ..... on a single user machine :|


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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:31 pm 
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Hey! Took you a long time to come back, heh? And you picked the day well, right after a new release when I'm the most stressed and tired! :P

Well, thanks for registering (you did the right thing, and that is what matters in the end, so pat on the back :wink: ), but I don't see the point of using a cracked version to try something out when that something has a fully functional 30 day trial.

Now, getting back to your pet peeve:

All your 'simply' does is, in fact, complicate things for *everybody*. You claim you had to 'hunt and peck' to shut it off for other users on the machine, but why would you even need to do that is beyond me: the Winstep application will never run automatically for them.

I can't even remember the last time I saw an application give that choice to a user, in fact - guess most developers just realized what a gigantic waste of time it was - and you're the first one in many thousands of users to ever raise this issue. That should tell you something, no?

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 Post subject: Re: Change file location?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:15 pm 
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Well, thanks for registering (you did the right thing, and that is what matters in the end, so pat on the back :wink: ), but I don't see the point of using a cracked version to try something out when that something has a fully functional 30 day trial.

Somehow, I think you just wasted a 'pat'. :D
The timing of the reemergence is highly suspicious...

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