lightenbolt i understand english isn't you first language, but as usual nothing in your reply really makes any sense. as i said there are any number of nonpersopnal things jorge could of had you say that a handful of us would of known only could of come from jorge. enough said my last post was at jorge.

Everything in his reply my sense to me, Chucky.

I didn't tell him to relay a message, he just wanted to be helpful - you can't blame him for that. Since I didn't tell him to relay a message, I had no reason to tell him stuff only a handful of guys here would know it could only have come from me.

Anyway, what I do I do out of love for what I do. Yes, the money helps, of course, we all need money to eat after all - but that was never my primary motivation.

So much stuff has been happening in my life lately that, even though I know Winstep should be my #1 priority, I still can't find the motivation in my heart to get back to it 100%. But I will.

I didn't plan this - stuff just kept happening, one after the other, most of it not good - and all of it taking my attention away from Winstep even though that was not the way I wanted it. I just needed some time off in the beginning... and then things got out of hand.

This is no excuse, of course. Just a statement of fact.

Yes, really mature attitude. Must be the fact that you're a """scientist""". I think from now on, I'll start calling you "LightingFart" in response. How's that?

Now, Jorge... I can't blame someone for trying to be helpful. But I can blame someone for trying to shove that help down your throat, for being arrogant, rude and acting, like I said, like Moses coming down mount Sinai with the God's Ten Commandments set in stone.

Personally, if I were you, that would bother me more than anything. You were not here, nobody even knew if you're alive or well, and there's a person who somehow gets your phone number and starts calling you (and I won't even start with how freaky and intrusive that is) and then decides to come in here and, without your explicit consent or even knowledge, starts acting like he's in charge. I'll point out that he was even apologising to people "on behalf of Winstep". Notice how noone else has ever done that, not even people that have been in this forum for years. But he did and he's only been here for a month!

So yeah, it's all up to you, to do whatever you want. You can appoint him to be administrator here, you can even put him in charge of everything. But you can't expect people to just accept that. This isn't the army where you just get the headquarters send a new commander and everybody obeys without question.

Now, I seriously hope that you're well and healthy and everything in your life starts getting back on track (if it ever wasn't). I also hope that you get the motivation you were looking for and come back here.

Finally, I have to say... he's Portuguese telling me that I "don't seem to understand" English? Seriously? And telling me to read *American* books? Oh, the arrogance and presumption!

I apologize for my mistake. The partial statement "on behalf of Winstep" should have been written "in behalf of Winstep." That's what I meant to say and it is accurate in the sense that it conveys my belief at the time.

[According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Usage in an informal context doesn't make much of a distinction between the two expressions, they are confusables and even professional writers may not draw such a line, but in the context of legal details of tender they are distinct.]

sorry then you're on something jorge if you believe that, and somehow i doubt that you do. on another note skagon is 100% correct. i'll be blunt are all portuguese people long wined ramblers? that was rhetorical don't bother to answer.

I just checked my statement that Skogan refers to and I did write "in behalf of Winstep."

And I just checked the Cambridge English Dictionary, where there's no "in behalf of". There's only "on behalf of" and it means "representing".
Also, the Oxford Dictionary denotes "in..." as "American use" with the same meaning as "on behalf of", with the relevant meaning being "as a representative of".

All of which only confirms the *meaning* your statement.

Now, if it makes you feel better, hanging on technicalities and minuscule details, be my guest.

P.S. Surely, my nickname is small, come on put some effort to it. Any physicist of any IQ above average should be able to get it right, LoghtningBilt...

jorge rather he contacted you or not, next time contact skywire and ask him to check things from time to time and pass on what you want us to know.

Unfortunately Skagon you failed completely to address the fact that you quoted me wrong on a point that I felt important enough to clarify based, in good faith, on the assumption that what you were saying was true. I have rebutted you extensively on quite a number of points (never acknowledged because you simply go into a different allegation) and your main accusation against me has proved wrong. I have yet to see anyone apologize. The whole of your arguments is full of holes, inconsistencies and contradictions if not outright lies. Don't expect me to produce a detailed report and point by point analysis of what you have been saying. I have better things to do. You are dense, a dispute maniac or a cynic.

If your intent is to f*** up Jorge's forum you are doing a good job. If this is the way newbies are treated around here, hey I don't want to belong (and do not jump to the conclusion that I was planning to become a regular). We could go forever discussing your interpretation of things and my interpretation of things. I would say, again in good faith, that we share in being sympathetic and supportive of Winstep. We would want to help it get better, develop in the community a sense that the environment is professional and friendly. That will never happen if distrust and hostility reign supreme. You however have been consistently laying down reasons for disputes to erupt and never ending fights to emerge. If that is the way you work, man, I don't want to work with you.

If you care to act in behalf of Winstep at all, you will drop this conversation. Period.

P.S.: I really don't care who you think you are nor about your notions of rank. An American would have taken my Paine and Jefferson hint loud and clear.

dude what planet do you come from? there is nothing anyone owes you an apology for. the matter was handled EXTREMELY badly by you from the start. everything you said pointed to you being full of yourself. we would only owe you an apology if we knew you were telling the truth and still argued with you. you really need to get a reality check. the only that can be accused of fucking up the forum is you. for you information a american would knock you on your ass for your continual bullshit.

The fact that I was telling the truth, but you harassed me as hell accusing me of being a liar, what you now know was unfair and plain wrong, does not call for an apology? What about specifics that I gave to Skagon that you, if acting in earnest could have verified, but you publicly denied knowing anything about, lying to my face? That doesn't call for an apology neither. John Adams said it best: "Facts are stubborn things." In case you never heard of him he was the first Vice President and second President of the United States.

I agree. "i'm done discussing this matter with you." I feel the same.

BULLSHIT. you gave no proof in any form to me or anyone else. you just came in here and expected everyone to just believe you. i nor anyone else lied about their being proof from you, we couldn't because you gave no proof. don't make the mistake again of calling me a liar.

In my previous post I said that I gave specifics to Skagon. I did not say that those specifics were about me being in contact with Jorge. If you don't remember check the conversation. It is available for you to review. When you lie learn to remember what you lied about. A guy that does not remember his lies is easy as hell to take down.

yeah we took your ass down. it's just you're too stupid to realize it.

It's obvious you need simple examples to understand. With pictures too. Like "playschool".

Results searching for "behalf":


Do you see any "in behalf of"?
Explanation of "on behalf of":


Now, do you understand? And just in case, the second explanation is irrelevant, because it refers to the transitive form.
And that's English. Plain old Queen's English. End of story.

Second issue:
You have not rebutted me in anything, actually. All you did was change the tune every time I pointed out the fact that you couldn't prove what you claimed. And that, even if you did, it still wouldn't solve our real problem, which was his absence.
The only proof was Jorge's word, and you were unable to understand that, as you kept on telling us the same things over and over.

The only thing I ever said was very simple that even a person of limited IQ such as yourself should understand:
"there is nothing we can do, without Jorge, so stop trying to pretend you're representing him or acting in his place"
The reason is very simple and again, I've said it before:
"Can you code a new version of Winstep? No.
Can you provide REAL support in here? No.
Can you even delete the spam posts in here? No.
Who is the ONLY person who can do that? Jorge. No one else."
And it doesn't matter that you had the audacity to call him on the phone and talked. All the talking in the world couldn't change those facts.

Can you understand now, why everything you said was irrelevant?

And that is why you will see no apology from me. Because the only thing you were right was that you did talk to him. Everything else, including the way you assumed a position of authority in here (or attempted to, in any case), was -and still is- way, way out of line.

Also, if I feel like it, I will continue this "conversation" for as long as you keep coming back and distorting the truth. Apparently, you don't seem to have anything better to do, than keep coming back and trying to appear as the saviour of the universe while at the same time, bad-mouthing any member of this forum who doesn't agree with you.

The person who began fucking up the forum, in case you missed it, is you. Even 10 days ago, we had no major arguments; it all started when you decided to play "god", but I guess you choose to ignore that fact.
And I basically think that, if Jorge doesn't put you in your place, in the long run you're going to cause a lot more problems in here than this. And if he decides to side with you... then he's just asking for it and I will be washing my hands.

Finally, get off your high fucking horse about the "Americans". You're Portuguese! Even though it's blatantly obvious that you're one of these people who went to the states for a couple of years and then they act more "American" than the Americans themselves. [But then again, that's what you did in here too; came in here a month ago and started acting worse than Jorge on a power trip.]
And no, I have no fucking idea what Jefferson and Paine ever wrote. I am sorry (and my apologies to all the 'normal' American guys in here, I have nothing against you all) but I've got Titans of Philosophy to read and quote; why would I bother with some American politicians?
Maybe in your distorted perception of the world, that's how far you can see. Just don't expect the rest of us to become myopic just because you can't see.

"An American would have taken my notions of......."
Personally, I'm fed up with your obsession with the Americans. "Americans" this and "Americans" that. Jesus, are you so bloody ashamed of your heritage?
Well, in any case, go find some place where you'll have the privilege of addressing only "Americans" of that kind. Maybe you too can find a crowd where your idiotic ramblings will be appreciated as pinnacles of wisdom and philosophy.

And by the way, Chuck is right; you got served and you don't even know it.
Which is funny, actually.