It's hard enough understanding the cavalier usage of terms in this product - Nexus, Nextstart, Ultimate, Workshelf, Shelf, Dock, Xtreme, etc etc etc, but more often than not the (web!)Help is wrong.

Try finding how to set corner or edge actions, for instance.. I've done it once, but finding it again - how I did it - is a mystery.

But, on this topic - Sub-menu mouse-over drop-down. Here's the Help text:
"Q) How do I make sub-menus open on mouseover instead of having to click on them?
A) Open NextSTART Preferences, navigate to the Menus tab and select 'Open sub-menus on mouseover'. You can also specify the delay used before automatically opening a sub-menu."

How inexact is that?
First you have to find out what 'NextSTART" is. It may be the pop-out dock that I use daily - although the major control icon is entitled 'NeXus' , as is the right-click context menu.
Then you look for the 'Menus tab'. Wrong.
I've just managed to find it again:-
Right-click the NeXuS control icon
Choose Dock Properties (it's not nextstart nor nexus)(it's a dock-specific setting, not the whole caboodle)
Choose the Behaviour tab
Down in the bottom-right corner is 'Sub-Docks', and there are your settings.
(Note that it's a 'sub-dock' rather than a 'sub-menu' as in Help...)

Compare that to the Help text. 'Contrast' would be a better word.
They may be good programmers at Winstep, but they're sure not communicators.

Now, let's try to find how to alter edge controls and corner behaviour; 'corner' appears once in Help.
Tags: sub-dock sub-menu mouse-over mouseover

Actually, Phred, you are correct on both accounts.
Unfortunately, the sheer complexity of the Winstep suite of programmes makes it hard. Add to that the enormous customisation facilities that each programme has and, on top of that, the fact that, while apparently separate, some of those programmes share a lot of code (functions, methods and modules) in the background, you see that it's quite difficult to produce completely transparent and comprehensive "configuration" dialogues. As a matter of fact, Jorge has tried to restructure those dialogues in a way that would be more friendly, comprehensive and intuitive in the near past (not taking into account his times of being away) and he did ask for input from us users. However, the main problem is that we who replied, are already well accustomed to how the Winstep suite works and we, more or less, have committed where every option and checkbox resides to memory. So, our input wasn't and couldn't have been truly representative of how a 'simple' user would perceive that structure. What is worse, we found that we couldn't even propose something entirely different. All our proposals were limited to moving some options into other tabs or sub-dialogues or out of them, but nothing truly groundbreaking, which was the exact problem Jorge had as well.
You see, when you're the person who created something and has been at it for so long, or even (like us) used something for so long, it is most difficult to see things from an entirely different perspective.
In any case, Jorge did do some redesigning, but since it was a work in progress and, in a way, still is, he didn't update the help files. So there you have it. The configuration dialogue structure has been altered, but not the help files, in wait of more restructuring.

I know this doesn't help and I don't even know when it will be rectified, but that's how the situation got to this point.

[..sighs]
Great shame, Skagon.

Maybe they could drop all terms except for:-
Product: Nexus
(A nexus is something that joins one thing to another; a point of co-incidence; 'a means of connection; a tie; a link'. Winstep's Nexus links a user to a machine.)
Versions: Nexus (free), Nexus Ultimate, Nexus Xtreme
Major feature elements: Docks, Shelf, Edges, Corners.
(Meanwhile, dropping the background image rape that installing Xtreme perpetrates without asking.)
Company: Winstep

And, at the same time, reverse requirements references to a more contemporary order, viz.:
Windows 8/7/Vista/XP/2003/2000
x64 and x32

What would help is a user-edited Wiki.
Total Commander has a reasonable help system (only two employees), and it also has a Wiki - as well as a forum - where users can add their descriptions, anecdotes and instructions.
Any chance?

PS Can you point me to where I can alter corner hotspots and independent edge behaviour..?

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Hi PHRED! Long time no hear! Been in hiding huh. Are you still using Nexus Ultimate or did you upgrade to Xtreme?

If you upgraded I can definitely help you out since I'm familiar with Xtreme.

P.S. And BTW, I did revive Carrie. She was laughing all the way out of the store. (In reference to a post days gone by).

Well, all that is not up to me.
I have to admit, after I read your post, I realised what you say makes sense. The word "nexus" is much better suited to describe a collection of programmes (or utilities or however you want to call them), rather than have the "nexus" being a *single* programme, either stand-alone or -even worse- part of a collection named "Winstep Xtreme".
I can understand how it came to be, though. The word "nexus" probably made sense in that the dock can be seen as a "nexus" for shortcuts and applets, at a time when there were no other programmes and even Nexus supported only one dock.

However, I'm not sure if it'd be wise to change names after so many years. On the other hand, it could be a good publicity stunt.

As for the wiki, I guess it's a decision Jorge will have to make. I can see how it can be useful, but I'm not sure if Jorge would welcome a joint effort. Without him having said anything of the sort, my "gut feeling" tells me that he probably wants to have everything 'professionally' made, in order to reflect professionalism, as opposed to having a user-contributed help resource, which could be more frequently updated (or maybe not) but which would appear more 'amateurish'. Again, that's my "gut feeling", if there is such a thing.

Anyhow, about your question. The hotspots can be configured (and created or erased) by clicking the NextStart 'Start' button, going to 'Settings'->'Preferences' and then clicking on the 'Hotspots' tab.
However, the edge behaviour of all docks and shelf have to be configured separately, by accessing each dock's properties: right-click on the control icon and select "Dock Properties" for a dock, or right-click the empty space on the shelf, then 'WorkShelf'->'Preferences' and going to the "Behaviour" tab in both cases.

Cheers!

...this is where it gets scary.
It's become apparent that I don't know what NEXTStart IS!
I have bought the Xtreme 'product', and I have NextStart in my Win7 Start Menu, but when I choose that - nothing happens.
What does NextStart do? Where does it show itself?

Where, Skagon, is the "NextStart 'Start' button" to which you refer?
(You can see why I omitted NextStart from my suggested features, above.)

Nothing much changes on my Win7 Start 'orb'. Scary.
I have a 'Start Menu' flag item in my pop-out dock (is that the right word.. 'dock'?), but it has no function. Set on NextStart Hotspot / Start Menu / 00- or 01-Nextstart [sic], nothing happens.
And I don't run a/the Shelf. (WorkShelf..?)

And, HA!, you can't search for NextStart in the forum because it's too common a term! Arrrrrgh.

Thanks for your help, and for your discussion. Maybe this might act as a seed for whoever is responsible for the product(s) to be made more intelligible. And saleable and profitable.

[Windy: not likely.]

nextstart is a dock that replaces the windows taskbar. when you first install xtreme and run it both workshelf and nextstart should be on the bottom of your screen. i've moved my nextstart to the top of the screen. i've included a image so you can see what nextstart looks like.

Okay, that's good, thanks, cChild.
NextStart <===> Dock! Obvious. Should have known..

Next, can you point me to Skagon's mention of NextStart's "Start button"? Nothing I can see calls itself a Start Button. I have a NeXuS icon that refers to itself as a Control Icon; next to that a Windows flag icon named 'Start Menu' (with hotspot properties.. mentioned above), and nothing much else.

I can't seem to track the sequence Skagon gave. ¿?

FWIW, all my controls are at the top of the screen too. I'll bet everyone started reading this post at the top, left.

see the round circle on the left side. depending on what theme you're running it will be something different. just click whatever you have there.

The only circle I have, cChild, is the Win7 Start Orb. :-/
Should I have NeXuS TaskBar on..? Other?
I have the LHS edge bringing up a program, and the bottom-left corner bringing up a command prompt, as is.
Trying a few settings...


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Uhm, could you get a screenshot of your desktop and post it here, so we can see what's going on?
Obviously, you should have NextStart running.

Now, if you don't see anything happening when you click on the NextStart icon, that probably means it's already running. If you press [CTRL]+[F12], it **should** open up the NextStart preferences by default.
Assuming you haven't *somehow* changed the setting, you should still get that dialogue to show up.

skagon he wants to be an ass please do not help him any more.

Phred you want to be a ass go to hell jerk.

Phred, if I remember correctly I take it you're using the Windows taskbar as I am since you're the one that told me about Stoic Joker's T Clock when I was bummed out that the old version of T-Clock doesn't work with Win7.

I have the NextSTART icon showing on the System Tray at all times. Here is my General tab settings. To open NextSTART from the System Tray, double left-click on the icon that looks like a monitor.



If for some reason you changed the default combination Ctrl + F12, right-click on the Nexus icon on the Dock. On the context menu title bar, (since I changed the default setting & don't remember what it is) try left-clicking, middle-clicking (wheel on mouse) and right-clicking and one of those options should open another context menu that is entitled NextSTART. Go to Settings > Preferences. The icon looks like a monitor. You can change the title bar actions under the Menus tab and a host of other features under the other tabs.

As far as bump settings, go here View My Video to see my bump settings in action. Let me know if you're
interested in the same or similar and I will take the time to post the screenshots of the settings to accomplish it.

You can also check out this thread. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8643 That thread is popular this week.

Windy don't feed the troll.

This is getting scarier.. You all know the video of the basketball players practising in the lift (elevator) foyer? I've just had one of those experiences ..but more of that later.

Skagon, making progress, but, for the data-bank, I'll add a couple of screenshots as you suggested. Let's see..
So that's the NextStart / Dock apparently.
I like to keep my Notification Area uncluttered, so I don't display Winstep/etcetc's icon. Ctrl-F12 works, though.

cChild, please don't take this chat that way. Just trying to be neat and compact.
I appreciate your advice.

Windy, Ahh, I didn't recall our past conversation. I do now. Good. Sometimes you find people living out on the long tail..

Now, for whatever reason, I couldn't find Skagon's steps to bring up the preferences he pointed to earlier. Even with Ctrl-F12 I didn't realise what I'd found - until I saw the differences in the dialogue boxes after right-clicking the NeXuS control icon of my dock and choosing its preferences.
Then it struck me: they're DIFFERENT, and in faint backgrounds they say 'WorkShelf' and 'NextSTART'. AH HA!
Just like the basketballers in the lift foyer. : )

Now I see the Hotspots tab, and that must have been where I was before, without realising it. How I got those preferences rather than WorkShelf's up, I don't know. Ctrl-F12 works, but does anyone know a GUI way of getting them up..? #?#
(I suppose I have to have the N/S N/A icon showing..)

And I see that the hotspot items 00 to 14 are the given set of hotspots that NextStart/docks provides us with.

Nevertheless, WorkShelf and NextStart have different Preferences dialogue boxes.
Fixed; thanks.

[FYI, my method of grabbing a quick screenshot of something that disappears, e.g. the dock, is with Win7's Snipping Tool, but set to New with Esc, then Ctrl-PrintScreen at the right moment. Grabs popups/tips/etc.]
[What with all these separate scrolling windows, does everyone use KatMouse? Recommended.]