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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 1:59 am 
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I would like an option in Winstep Nexus to have a per-desktop active running apps list/tasklist.

That way, the task list on the active virtual desktop would show only applications/windows active on the current virtual desktop, just as the Windows 11 standard taskbar does, not all opened apps/windows from all virtual desktops, as the Nexus is working now.

I have multiple virtual desktops, often with dozens of open windows, and Nexus Dock quickly becomes overpopulated. I do use grouping of apps, so it shows only one icon initially, but when it expands (for instance, I often have 20 Chrome windows running), it's a mess.

So, please add an option in the task tab of the preferences: "Show only the apps/windows active on the current virtual desktop"

For the paid version, Nexus could offer app grouping per desktop using subdocks, drawers, etc., so the user could quickly jump from 1 app to another, no matter the desktop it occupies.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:19 am 
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Two things:

1. Working with Windows Virtual Desktops (although I don't think many people use them, but I could be wrong) is kind of on the to-do list and has been for a while. At the speed I have been adding features lately it probably won't take too long before adding support for those.

2. This said, it will NOT be a feature in the free version of Nexus. The free version is already too good for its (my?) own good. Remember, I have to eat too :D

The proof is that with all that VD usage you're obviously a sophisticated user YET the free version seems to be "good enough" for you (even though you're missing out on a ton of stuff only available on the paid versions :wink: ).

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winstep wrote:
Two things:

1. Working with Windows Virtual Desktops (although I don't think many people use them, but I could be wrong) is kind of on the to-do list and has been for a while. At the speed I have been adding features lately it probably won't take too long before adding support for those.

VDs under Windows are not very well implemented in my experience in the past. I doubt too many people are using them. Also, there are not just the ones supplied by Win but a number of 3rd party ones, and I'm not sure if this could be compatible with all of them.

That said, they were great under those unices that had them as standard - e.g., Solaris - and are fab under Linux, where I tend to use typically between 3 and 5.
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2. This said, it will NOT be a feature in the free version of Nexus. The free version is already too good for its (my?) own good.

Indeed! It's far too good already, evidently.
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Remember, I have to eat too :D

Really? Who would have thought! ;) :lol: [/sarcasm]
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The proof is that with all that VD usage you're obviously a sophisticated user YET the free version seems to be "good enough" for you (even though you're missing out on a ton of stuff only available on the paid versions :wink: ).

Indeed. Curious. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 6:27 pm 
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Thanks for considering it!

winstep wrote:
Two things:
1. Working with Windows Virtual Desktops (although I don't think many people use them, but I could be wrong) is kind of on the to-do list and has been for a while. At the speed I have been adding features lately it probably won't take too long before adding support for those.


WVD has been around for ages. Also, when you say for MS Windows feature that "not many people use it", it could easily mean millions do. So, it definitely should be supported by Winstep Nexus. If I've given you a nudge, I'm glad.

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2. This said, it will NOT be a feature in the free version of Nexus. The free version is already too good for its (my?) own good. Remember, I have to eat too :D


I totally agree that you need to eat too. I also agree that the free version is already full of features, definitely more than expected.

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The proof is that with all that VD usage you're obviously a sophisticated user YET the free version seems to be "good enough" for you (even though you're missing out on a ton of stuff only available on the paid versions :wink: ).


However, I disagree that I am a "sophisticated user" in a Nexus context. I'm not at all a sophisticated Nexus user, just barely a sophisticated Windows user, and as such, looking at Nexus, it looks kinda unfinished for not supporting WVD, at least on the basic level.

Before I say anything else, I want you to know I'm 50 and have known about your apps for AGES, and I totally appreciate your work. However, I am not a member of Windows Customizer Niche (at least not in a classic sense, though I have run RocketDock and Rainmeter for years now). As such, I just don't need all the bells and whistles which even the basic version provides, not to mention the pro version.

I just don't need modules, effects, tens of themes or anything else except the taskbar replacement functionality I use Nexus for, ever since Win11 disabled vertical taskbar. And as I said, looking from this user case perspective, Nexus looks a bit unfinished, for not supporting WVD.

So, because, just as you said, the free version is "good enough", I don't see myself purchasing the pro version for only one feature, especially for 24,95€. Sorry. :(

That being said, I would purchase Nexus+ for 4,99€ in a heartbeat if it included WVD functionality, even without any modules (maybe only a clock, like in Win Taskbar), heavy customisation functionality, themes, etc. Cause I need, just as (probably) millions of other Win11 users, only a decent vertical taskbar replacement. And Nexus is PERFECT, missing just WVD.

I've been using Nexus for a few years now, and I can vouch for it to be a very capable and robust taskbar replacement for people who need it. The only annoyance (apart from WVD support) is the fact that if I auto-hide the Nexus, it reappears ONLY if I touch the desktop border along the length of the (hidden) Nexus dock itself, as opposed to the whole desktop side.

So, what do you say about the idea of splitting the Nexus upgrades into two branches, or two tiers, one for Windows Taskbar replacement guys, like myself, and the other for Windows Customizers? 8)

I bet there are at least 100x more old guys like me with the need for things to stay vertical than there are kids customising the desktop. :mrgreen:

So, please give us Nexus+ with WVD and multiple docks (for multiple desktops and monitors), I'll be the first customer, even a beta tester! Leave everything else to the customisers crowd.


P.S.

Just imagine - multiple desktops (with multiple monitors), each one with its own custom Nexus+ dock, containing only the apps I need in that desktop context - one for general, one for development, one for accounting etc.

And if WVD is not good enough, you can always implement your own. I'm sure you're more than able.

In any case, Cheers!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:24 pm 
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imbehind wrote:
looking at Nexus, it looks kinda unfinished for not supporting WVD, at least on the basic level.


Why? None of the other docks do. So from that perspective, they are all "unfinished". :D

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I am not a member of Windows Customizer Niche (at least not in a classic sense, though I have run RocketDock and Rainmeter for years now).


Rainmeter, eh? And you say you are not a Windows customizer? :D

imbehind wrote:
As such, I just don't need all the bells and whistles which even the basic version provides, not to mention the pro version.


Perhaps because you only see it in terms of "Windows customization" instead of what it really is. Shelves with their tabs are not about "looks". They are about productivity. Alarms that allow you to launch applications and run internal commands, show reminders, etc, are not about "looks". They are about productivity. I could go on and on and on, the list is at least as big as my arm (and I'm 6"3 or 1,90m for us non-Imperialists)

You seem to think that Windows customization is what Winstep apps are all about and you are dead wrong. That's just a facet of a multi-faceted diamond, and not even the most important facet, at least not for me.

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So, because, just as you said, the free version is "good enough", I don't see myself purchasing the pro version for only one feature, especially for 24,95€. Sorry. :(


No problem. Then you just don't get that one feature that would make Nexus perfect in your opinion.

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That being said, I would purchase Nexus+ for 4,99€ in a heartbeat if it included WVD functionality,


Of course you would. Because the 20 years I spent adding new features and perfecting Winstep applications mean nothing to you. Well, they do mean something to me.

And this is what happens when the likes of Stardock go scorched earth by devaluing their own customization software in the hopes of killing off the competition. Didn't work and they only ended up hurting everyone, including themselves.

You see, you would not be paying $24.95 just for a single feature. You would be paying $24.95 for 20+ years of continuous development. Open Preferences, click the version number in the top right corner, then the View Change Log button. I dare you to go all the way back to the beginning and see for yourself how much work was poured into each new version. And how much stuff in there has NOTHING to do with "looks" or "Windows customization" (and that is just for the FREE version of the dock, now imagine for the paid versions).

Then get back to me offering to pay 4.99€ again if you still have the nerve. lol

Now, this kind of reminded me of that story about the $500 fix:

A complex machine breaks down and none of the in-house technicians can fix it. So they call in a seasoned expert.

The expert arrives, inspects the machine briefly, then tightens a single screw. Instantly, everything works again.

When the company receives the $500 invoice they’re shocked. “All you did was tighten one screw!”

The expert replies: “Tightening the screw: $1. Knowing which screw to tighten: $499.”

imbehind wrote:
The only annoyance (apart from WVD support) is the fact that if I auto-hide the Nexus, it reappears ONLY if I touch the desktop border along the length of the (hidden) Nexus dock itself, as opposed to the whole desktop side.


And that is by design, to help prevent accidental dock activations when going for the close/restore/minimize buttons of a maximized window and you overshoot them, for instance. Accidental dock activations are (were) at the top of user complaints.

And you know the funny thing? You can make the dock reappear when touching *anywhere* on that screen edge by adding a "bump top/bottom/left/right screen edge" hotkey to the Nexus control icon (or Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Hot key').

Now, if you've been using Nexus for years and didn't know about that one, imagine how much you also don't know about all the stuff the paid versions can do. :P

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So, what do you say about the idea of splitting the Nexus upgrades into two branches, or two tiers, one for Windows Taskbar replacement guys, like myself, and the other for Windows Customizers? 8)


No. Winstep applications are already pretty modular. Not interested about themes? Don't use them, stick to a default theme. Not interested in modules? Don't use them. And so on.

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So, please give us Nexus+ with WVD and multiple docks (for multiple desktops and monitors), I'll be the first customer, even a beta tester! Leave everything else to the customisers crowd.


That's Nexus Ultimate (or will be, if I ever add WVD support) and that will be 24.95€, thank you. :lol:

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Just imagine - multiple desktops (with multiple monitors), each one with its own custom Nexus+ dock, containing only the apps I need in that desktop context - one for general, one for development, one for accounting etc.


Just imagine... a tabbed dock with a tab for general, another for development, one for accounting, etc... that's Nexus Ultimate. Or rather, just a little piece of it.

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In any case, Cheers!


Cheers! :D

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:03 am 
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What can one say, eh! Horses for courses, as long as you don't have to pay for it even if it's a piddling amount!.
6'3 eh? Your ahead of me there Jorge! :) 6ft straight.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 8:46 pm 
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winstep wrote:
Rainmeter, eh? And you say you are not a Windows customizer?


No, I'm not. My approach differs significantly from that of an average desktop customizer. At least I think so. I just added the missing functionality. Never had a "let's make it different" moment, really. Never shared my desktop looks anywhere. Never shared my setup or custom-made Rainmeter widgets etc.

The only things I added, years ago, were a mini desktop clock widget, a miniature day of the week widget, a custom weather meter and a custom crypto ticker (the latter two only after I purchased a second monitor). And I added Nexus only after I had to install win11 which lacked the vertical taskbar.

Also, I rarely browse for files. I have "Everything" search and launcher where I do the majority of my interactions with the filesystem, and, of course, I have the terminal, for my professional work, so I don't really care much for how my desktop looks like or functions.

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Perhaps because you only see it in terms of "Windows customization" instead of what it really is. Shelves with their tabs are not about "looks". They are about productivity. Alarms that allow you to launch applications and run internal commands, show reminders, etc, are not about "looks". They are about productivity. I could go on and on and on, the list is at least as big as my arm (and I'm 6"3 or 1,90m for us non-Imperialists)

You seem to think that Windows customization is what Winstep apps are all about and you are dead wrong. That's just a facet of a multi-faceted diamond, and not even the most important facet, at least not for me.


Jorge, I simply see it through the lens of my own personal experience and needs. That's all. I'm sure, as you pointed out rightfully, there's much more to it than I perceive, but those features are not relevant to me personally.

winstep wrote:
No problem. Then you just don't get that one feature that would make Nexus perfect in your opinion.


That's fine. I can live without it and use it as it is now. That was not the point of my complaint in the first place anyway.

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imbehind wrote:
That being said, I would purchase Nexus+ for 4,99€ in a heartbeat if it included WVD functionality,


Of course you would. Because the 20 years I spent adding new features and perfecting Winstep applications mean nothing to you. Well, they do mean something to me.

And this is what happens when the likes of Stardock go scorched earth by devaluing their own customization software in the hopes of killing off the competition. Didn't work and they only ended up hurting everyone, including themselves.

You see, you would not be paying $24.95 just for a single feature. You would be paying $24.95 for 20+ years of continuous development. Open Preferences, click the version number in the top right corner, then the View Change Log button. I dare you to go all the way back to the beginning and see for yourself how much work was poured into each new version. And how much stuff in there has NOTHING to do with "looks" or "Windows customization" (and that is just for the FREE version of the dock, now imagine for the paid versions).

Then get back to me offering to pay 4.99€ again if you still have the nerve. lol


Whoa, dude, slow it down. You know the proverb "Every criticism is free advice"? I politely shared my point of view regarding your pricing and purchase options. That's all. However, this is your business, and you are free to market your product however you see fit.


winstep wrote:
Now, this kind of reminded me of that story about the $500 fix:

A complex machine breaks down and none of the in-house technicians can fix it. So they call in a seasoned expert.

The expert arrives, inspects the machine briefly, then tightens a single screw. Instantly, everything works again.

When the company receives the $500 invoice they’re shocked. “All you did was tighten one screw!”

The expert replies: “Tightening the screw: $1. Knowing which screw to tighten: $499.”


Well, again, I'm prepared to pay 4,99€ for "tightening the screw" - giving me a fully functioning vertical taskbar replacement, not 24,95€ for features I do not need.


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And you know the funny thing? You can make the dock reappear when touching *anywhere* on that screen edge by adding a "bump top/bottom/left/right screen edge" hotkey to the Nexus control icon (or Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Hot key').


Thanks for the tip!

However, the setting is not found here: "Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Hot key", but here: "Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Edge bump settings -> Activate along entire screen edge"

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Now, if you've been using Nexus for years and didn't know about that one, imagine how much you also don't know about all the stuff the paid versions can do. :P

imbehind wrote:
So, what do you say about the idea of splitting the Nexus upgrades into two branches, or two tiers, one for Windows Taskbar replacement guys, like myself, and the other for Windows Customizers? 8)


No. Winstep applications are already pretty modular. Not interested about themes? Don't use them, stick to a default theme. Not interested in modules? Don't use them. And so on.

imbehind wrote:
So, please give us Nexus+ with WVD and multiple docks (for multiple desktops and monitors), I'll be the first customer, even a beta tester! Leave everything else to the customisers crowd.


That's Nexus Ultimate (or will be, if I ever add WVD support) and that will be 24.95€, thank you. :lol:

imbehind wrote:
Just imagine - multiple desktops (with multiple monitors), each one with its own custom Nexus+ dock, containing only the apps I need in that desktop context - one for general, one for development, one for accounting etc.


Just imagine... a tabbed dock with a tab for general, another for development, one for accounting, etc... that's Nexus Ultimate. Or rather, just a little piece of it.



You're missing my point. Right now, there's probably a market for a steak (win11 vertical taskbar replacement). And you are insisting I should buy a cow. But I don't need or want a cow, I just like steak.

In any case, I appreciate your previous answer more than some corporate shit.

Cheers!


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imbehind wrote:
The only things I added, years ago, were a mini desktop clock widget, a miniature day of the week widget, a custom weather meter and a custom crypto ticker (the latter two only after I purchased a second monitor). And I added Nexus only after I had to install win11 which lacked the vertical taskbar.


That's called "customizing your desktop" ehehe. In a way that is how I started too, all those years ago. And then when I couldn't find what I wanted, I decided to do it myself.

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Whoa, dude, slow it down. You know the proverb "Every criticism is free advice"? I politely shared my point of view regarding your pricing and purchase options. That's all. However, this is your business, and you are free to market your product however you see fit.


I'm not upset if that is what you are thinking, and apologies if I came across that way (even though I felt a bit insulted about the 4.99€ offer lol).

I'm just used to speaking my mind, so please don't take it personally. The prerogative of being self-employed. :P

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Well, again, I'm prepared to pay 4,99€ for "tightening the screw" - giving me a fully functioning vertical taskbar replacement, not 24,95€ for features I do not need.


Unfortunately I only sell the cow, not the steak. Especially because to sell you the steak the rest of the cow would have to come attached anyway lol

There is an application called Argus Monitor that is able to control case fan speed based on both the CPU and the GPU temps, not just one or the other. It does a ton of other stuff too, but that is all I need and use it for.

They charge 12.95€ for a 1 year license (or €28.95 for a 3 year license), which is somewhat expensive given that all I want it to do is control my case fans, more so when most fan controlling software is actually freeware. But none of the freeware options allow you to use BOTH the CPU and the GPU temps to control the speed of the case fans.

And so I bought the software. Twice already, in fact, since nVidia or Intel at one point changed something and the first version I had stopped working.

I didn't write to them asking to make a special version of Argus with just the CPU + GPU part so I could pay less. I just accepted that this was what the software cost and decided if I was willing to pay what they asked for it, regardless of how I felt, or not.

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However, the setting is not found here: "Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Hot key", but here: "Nexus Preferences -> Behavior tab -> Activation Settings -> Edge bump settings -> Activate along entire screen edge"


I actually forgot about that one, and I made this thing lol. Anyway, both options will work.

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You're missing my point. Right now, there's probably a market for a steak (win11 vertical taskbar replacement). And you are insisting I should buy a cow. But I don't need or want a cow, I just like steak.


As Stardock amply demonstrated when they started doing that, all selling complex software for a lower value like $5 does is cheapen it. Reduce its perceived value all around. You are an example of that, more so because you are under the impression that "free" is a "fair price" for Nexus. It isn't. And the major reason it's free is because I suck at marketing. :D

This market is not like the cell phone market where you can sell your apps for $5 in the knowledge that it will sell a minimum of tens of thousands of units in a single month. This is a niche market, so that will never happen regardless of the price point - again, all I would accomplish is lower the perceived value of these type of applications, regardless of how complex or powerful they actually are.

If I had followed Stardock's example all those years ago, I would not have a business now. And you wouldn't have a Nexus to replace your Windows taskbar either. At least not a version that can handle UWP apps, plus all the crap MS has changed in and added to Windows over the years.

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In any case, I appreciate your previous answer more than some corporate shit.


No corporation here, just real people. :D

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