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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:59 pm 
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ALL Forty-Six THEMES UPLOADED:

Approximately 75%-85% additionally have 5120x1440 Ultrawidescreen wallpapers in a sub-folder for those who use that resolution.

    _Monty Python FAN Theme
    Aquarium Freshwater
    Aquarium Tropical
    Assassin's Creed FAN Theme
    Astrology
    Aurora Borealis
    BIRDZ
    Black Lightning
    Black Silk
    BONSAI
    Butterflies 2
    Candy
    Commercial Planes
    Compartmentalization
    DaVinci
    DOGZ
    Dragon Mist
    EGYPT Fantasy
    Fauvistic CUBISM
    Foundation
    Fruit & Wine
    GEL
    GEL Xtreme
    Green GooeyGEL
    Halloween
    Jazz Club
    Jungle
    KATZ
    Kitchen
    Kon Tiki
    Miles Davis FAN Theme
    Modern Office 1
    Mystical
    Neon Transit
    Orchestra
    Palms
    Pastel
    Robot Apocalypse
    Robotics
    Solar System
    Steampunk AIR
    The Louver FAN Theme
    The Study
    Trains
    White Satin
    World wonders


@JORGE and @NEXTER
I would put the link but reading the AI deletions and comments on here in other threads, I completely understand why it should not be put up in here.
On a side-note - If that was your real home (The Forum IRL hypothetically) - Someone just theoretically trespassed into your home(The AI). If the AI was a human they'd be arrested.

LAST - @JORGE - I am definitely toning it back a little - It's fun and thanks for your help and tolerance of some of my requests. I will do one here and there and upload, but I do need a little rest. :) Feel free to make the gallery public you do not need my permission anyway because I am one of not too many that actually read your Terms of service on upload. ;)


The two missing?
- Modern office 2 and Windows Vista - I'm unhappy so far. Vista needs to be saved as PNG32 to maintain its quality at any resolution and I need to maintain the same look & feel, and Modern Office 2, I am doing it 22nd Century style so it requires a lot more thought outside of the square/box :)


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:54 am 
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BassdudeNZ wrote:
LAST - @JORGE - I am definitely toning it back a little - It's fun and thanks for your help and tolerance of some of my requests. I will do one here and there and upload, but I do need a little rest. :) Feel free to make the gallery public you do not need my permission anyway because I am one of not too many that actually read your Terms of service on upload. ;)


Yeah, rest a little, you deserve it, you were on a huge roll lol

Anyway, I've already downloaded the Orchestra theme and I'm going to try to figure out the issue with it at different DPIs as soon as I am able.

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:35 pm 
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winstep wrote:
BassdudeNZ wrote:
LAST - @JORGE - I am definitely toning it back a little - It's fun and thanks for your help and tolerance of some of my requests. I will do one here and there and upload, but I do need a little rest. :) Feel free to make the gallery public you do not need my permission anyway because I am one of not too many that actually read your Terms of service on upload. ;)


Yeah, rest a little, you deserve it, you were on a huge roll lol

Anyway, I've already downloaded the Orchestra theme and I'm going to try to figure out the issue with it at different DPIs as soon as I am able.


Thanks Jorge. Honestly, considering it's the only machine with an nVidia driver and nVidia's reluctance to do anything other than what they all do and divert, combined with Win11's auto-scaling in two different places, I am pretty sure it's not Winstep, otherwise my Studio Ultrawidescreen would suffer a similar fate and it does not. It seems to be only on smaller screens that have higher end GPU's that auto-scale well over 200% of its size, based on my experiences. It's not just Orchestra, it halves the menu widths and squashes on every menu at 250% auto-scale with the nVidia driver.


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:09 pm 
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I'm pretty sure it's NOT the nvidia driver's fault.

Anyway, I downloaded Orchestra and noticed that you are putting the theme folder inside the zip file, and then uploading the theme as a zip file.

Don't worry about all the themes you already uploaded, but there are two issues with this:

1. You have a zip file called orchestra and inside this zip file is the orchestra folder. The problem with this is that if the user instead of manually unzipping the theme to the Themes folder, clicks the Import Theme button in the Themes tab of Preferences, the Winstep application will create a Themes\Office\Office\ folder. It will then look inside Themes\Office\ for any Winstep theme configuration files (.wst, wsn, etc) and it won't find any (since the actual theme files are inside the second office folder) and so it assumes this is a 3rd party application theme (such as an ObjectDock or RocketDock theme) and moves it to the Nexus\Backgrounds\ folder.

I've already changed the code in the next release so the Winstep application also looks inside the second Office folder for Winstep theme configuration files, and if it finds them it moves all the contents in \Themes\Office\Office to \Themes\Office and removes the (now empty) \Themes\Office\Office sub-folder.

This will solve the problem so it's no longer a biggie.

Still, for reference, the proper way to zip theme files is to do in a way that the zip file holds all bitmaps and theme configuration files first level, not on a sub-folder.

2. Use the .xtreme format.

If you use the .xtreme theme format, themes can be automatically installed simply by double clicking the theme file, rather than having to click the import button and then navigating to the theme or manually extracting the contents of the theme zip file into the Themes folder.

To convert a zip file to the xtreme format is very simple: simply right click the zip file, in the Windows 11 context menu that pops up select 'Show More Options' and then in the other, more complete, context menu that pops up you should see the "Convert to Xtreme' option.

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:44 pm 
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Didn't know that, usually there isn't. It must have been done while compressing the PNG32's. Thanks :D

I usually rename to *.xtreme but didn't for some reason on a few?

The Vista one is a nasty one. It will be quite a while. Wallpaper and even the glass is easy, getting the layout for the menu, notsomuch. This is because a lot of things are no longer present. Anyway I siomply finished what was nearly done. This one is just in early stages.


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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winstep wrote:

I've already changed the code in the next release so the Winstep application also looks inside the second Office folder for Winstep theme configuration files, and if it finds them it moves all the contents in \Themes\Office\Office to \Themes\Office and removes the (now empty) \Themes\Office\Office sub-folder.




My only question in this being I have done several ( a majority) of sub-themes in the SubTheme folder. Do I need to redo them?
I am ok with that as long as I know where to put them because the menus have the identical naming convention (e.g. TitleA, ButtonA, endcapA).
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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:00 am 
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Not an issue, don't do anything to the SubTheme folder(s), that part is fine.

Themes\Orchestra\Orchestra\SubTheme

simply becomes

Themes\Orchestra\SubTheme

i.e. everything is moved one folder level up (files and sub-folders).

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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winstep wrote:

To convert a zip file to the xtreme format is very simple: simply right click the zip file, in the Windows 11 context menu that pops up select 'Show More Options' and then in the other, more complete, context menu that pops up you should see the "Convert to Xtreme' option.


I do not have that context menu Jorge. On any of my computers and no, I did not go to the wrong place. I can prove it with screenshots from every one of them but that seems pointless except as a reinforcement of what I just said. I just rename the *.zip to *.xtreme, unless that is a bad way of doing it?


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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BassdudeNZ wrote:
I do not have that context menu Jorge. On any of my computers and no, I did not go to the wrong place. I can prove it with screenshots from every one of them but that seems pointless except as a reinforcement of what I just said.


When you right click on a zip file in a *Explorer* window, do you not get a context menu that says "Show more options" at the bottom? Aren't you running Windows 11?

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I just rename the *.zip to *.xtreme, unless that is a bad way of doing it?


Bad way of doing it. Conversion to .xtreme also changes a byte that prevents the file from being recognized as a zip file by the server you upload it to, which would automatically change the extension back to zip.

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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winstep wrote:
BassdudeNZ wrote:
I do not have that context menu Jorge. On any of my computers and no, I did not go to the wrong place. I can prove it with screenshots from every one of them but that seems pointless except as a reinforcement of what I just said.


When you right click on a zip file in a *Explorer* window, do you not get a context menu that says "Show more options" at the bottom? Aren't you running Windows 11?

BassdudeNZ wrote:
I just rename the *.zip to *.xtreme, unless that is a bad way of doing it?


Bad way of doing it. Conversion to .xtreme also changes a byte that prevents the file from being recognized as a zip file by the server you upload it to, which would automatically change the extension back to zip.


So I guess I am better off leaving them as zip files then?




Yes Win 11 on all machines....and as reinforcement...
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If you can try something?

Go into REGEDIT into HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\shell
Could you please export the winstep key because I do not have one for some strange reason? It simply did not write to the registry context menu (I checked) on any of the installations. If I have a *.reg file or text (In email of the keys/strings/DWORD), then I can put it in myself manually if needs be. It will likely be case sensitive too.
That should work?


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:18 am 
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Hmmm perhaps because WinRAR is handling your zip files?

Anyway, open WorkShelf Preferences, go to the Advanced tab, click the Troubleshooting Options button and then the Restore File Associations button. See if that makes the option appear... if not, forget about it, keep uploading as zip files.

Anyway, here is what it should look like when you right click on a zip file and then select More Options in the first context menu (WTH was MS thinking?! Sigh).


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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winstep wrote:
(WTH was MS thinking?! Sigh).

It's interesting considering the 'Open with.." allows mulitple applications to open it but context menu is limited... I know does a few things e.g. UltraISO and PowerISO can both be associated with the same files and both reside in the context menu, but I think that's a rare exception.

restore file associations did not work, even with shutting down explorer and refresh and then a reboot to be sure...same thing.
Please send me the registry entry Jorge, if you'd be so kind :D .


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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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Ok finished this one.
Nothing spectacular, but it is clean and fast and it has working battery information that will work on both Laptop batteries and UPS'. I also worked out what I was doing wrong with the multi's in the battery. The Net is fully in sync with all meters.
I won't do that again in a hurry, it was not as easy as it may look. I've also aligned the battery grid and multi better since this image. Additionally, I've changed the text in the Moon Phase to white as the grey rasterization is not pretty. Also, customised the Zodiac signs I created a while back to 'almost' greyscale for this theme only. :)
I'll upload it to the gallery soon but it will be in zip format.

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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You should always have "time remaining" for the battery module, as that information being available is far, far, more common that "charge cycles". Even if in your laptop it displays N/A, in most laptops or desktops with a UPS it will display the remaining time.

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 Post subject: Re: Theme approach
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winstep wrote:
You should always have "time remaining" for the battery module, as that information being available is far, far, more common that "charge cycles". Even if in your laptop it displays N/A, in most laptops or desktops with a UPS it will display the remaining time.


Ok point taken - I've also widened the placeholder slightly so it's more uniform to accommodate since I took this screenshot.

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