known bugs with the nexus dock (?)

zvikonator · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:13 pm **Posts:** 2

Hi Guys,

I recently downloaded the Nexus dock to my laptop.

I never used a docking bar before and I really wanted to try it out and to see how it will effect my work. So far I like your product. It has a good look, it's quite customizable and I feel secure using it

I noticed a few bugs and I wonder if those are known issues, or maybe I have set up something wrong. Either way, you guys should know about them and I'd appriciate a response

:

1. I set my windows taskbar (using win7) not to auto hide, so it will 'coexist' with the dock (at least until I get used to it), however, I noticed that even though it's supposed to be visible all the time, the taskbar dissapears when I move items on my desktop. it doesnt hide, just disappears, and in order to see it I need to maximize a window and minimize again. eg: moving a file or folder on the desktop from one location to the other will make the taskbar disappear.. strange... (btw, it doesnt always behave this way)

2. the dock bar is set to auto hide and reappear once I bump the top right corner of the screen with the cursor. This does not work properly - it bahaves as if I set it to reappear when I bump the top of the screen

3. strangely, the program chose to represent 2 open office documents (in the "running applications" area of the dock) with a VLC icon

I attached a screenshot (hope it got uploaded

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Cheers!

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12285

Hi!

Replying to your issues:

1. Do you have the 'Hide Windows taskbar' setting enabled in the General tab of Preferences? Do you have the 'Hide Desktop Icons' setting enabled in the same tab? Are you sure the Windows taskbar is not simply auto-hiding?

2. Err, that's not a bug, it's a feature! Seriously, this is because bumping the screen edge the dock has hidden to will always bring it back. The other activation method (especially keyboard shortcuts) is intended to be used mainly when the dock is not hidden/collapsed but behind other windows and you want to bring it forward.

This said, I'm also a bit split about this one. I suppose I could automatically disable the default 'bump screen edge' activation method for hidden docks if the user has selected an alternate 'bump' activation method.

This, however, can then get tremendously confusing very fast, especially for new users: imagine you set the activation method to be bumping the top screen edge with your mouse pointer, forget about it, and then you dock Nexus to the bottom. Bumping the bottom edge will no longer bring the hidden dock forward, instead you must bump the top edge, which is tremendously unintuitive.

Anyway, I'm open to suggestions on this from you and other users.

3. Without the screenshot I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. :wink:

zvikonator · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:13 pm **Posts:** 2

Thanks for the reply, I added some answers to your q's in the quoted text (in blue)

winstep wrote:

Hi!

Replying to your issues:

1. Do you have the 'Hide Windows taskbar' setting enabled in the General tab of Preferences? No Do you have the 'Hide Desktop Icons' setting enabled in the same tab?No Are you sure the Windows taskbar is not simply auto-hiding? yes

I am quite sure it is a bug because some of the times the task bar would disappear less for the start button (on the left), some times it would disappear entirely, and sometimes not at all..

2. Err, that's not a bug, it's a feature! Seriously, this is because bumping the screen edge the dock has hidden to will always bring it back. The other activation method (especially keyboard shortcuts) is intended to be used mainly when the dock is not hidden/collapsed but behind other windows and you want to bring it forward.

This said, I'm also a bit split about this one. I suppose I could automatically disable the default 'bump screen edge' activation method for hidden docks if the user has selected an alternate 'bump' activation method.

This, however, can then get tremendously confusing very fast, especially for new users: imagine you set the activation method to be bumping the top screen edge with your mouse pointer, forget about it, and then you dock Nexus to the bottom. Bumping the bottom edge will no longer bring the hidden dock forward, instead you must bump the top edge, which is tremendously unintuitive.

ohhhh, now I understand how it's supposed to work..

In that case I will try to uncheck the auto hide option and just to have the dock behave "same as other windows" (position&behavior tab of the preferences)..

hmmm tried it and still, bumping the top of the screen prompts the dock which I don't like because it hides the web browser menu.
In my opinion, I would say that 99.9% of ppl who use this kind of gadget are computer literate enough not to be confused by the problem you have described, since ppl who require a docking bar usually use the computer *a lot* and are able to adjust to new software easily.

Anyway, I'm open to suggestions on this from you and other users.

3. Without the screenshot I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. :wink:

I will try to attach it again

btw, I tried to add the screenshot, its a .png file - is this a problem?

Thanks

Windy · **Joined:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:47 pm **Posts:** 933

zvikonator wrote:

ohhhh, now I understand how it's supposed to work..

In that case I will try to uncheck the auto hide option and just to have the dock behave "same as other windows" (position&behavior tab of the preferences)..

hmmm tried it and still, bumping the top of the screen prompts the dock which I don't like because it hides the web browser menu.
In my opinion, I would say that 99.9% of ppl who use this kind of gadget are computer literate enough not to be confused by the problem you have described, since ppl who require a docking bar usually use the computer *a lot* and are able to adjust to new software easily.

Anyway, I'm open to suggestions on this from you and other users.

Maybe move it to the bottom so it won't cover the browser toolbar?

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12285

zvikonator wrote:

Thanks for the reply, I added some answers to your q's in the quoted text (in blue)

Oh boy. That makes it very confusing - I know it's a bit more work because you have to copy/paste, but try to use the QUOTE functions, that's what I do. :wink:

zvikonator wrote:

I am quite sure it is a bug because some of the times the task bar would disappear less for the start button (on the left), some times it would disappear entirely, and sometimes not at all..

If you don't have Nexus set to hide the Windows Taskbar, then it shouldn't mess with your Windows taskbar at all. Probably something else on your system?

zvikonator wrote:

hmmm tried it and still, bumping the top of the screen prompts the dock which I don't like because it hides the web browser menu.

You can either increase the edge bump delay (General tab of Preferences) so there is less chance of this happening accidentally, or you can disable the 'Show dock when mouse bumps screen edge' setting in the Position & Behavior tab. This will prevent the dock from coming forward when it's behind another window and you bump the associated screen edge. The edge bump will still work if the dock is hidden, though.

zvikonator wrote:

In my opinion, I would say that 99.9% of ppl who use this kind of gadget are computer literate enough not to be confused by the problem you have described

You would be surprised!

zvikonator wrote:

I will try to attach it again

You failed... again. :wink:

zvikonator wrote:

btw, I tried to add the screenshot, its a .png file - is this a problem?

Shouldn't be. How exactly are you trying to do this?

Anyway, you can always send that screenshot to the Winstep email support address.

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12285

Zvikonator, what AV (security) suite are you running?

pokepalm · **Joined:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6

Yes, I also encountered the first problem when clicking Show Desktop and moving a file. It happened when I use Nexus for sure. What shall I do?

Fabius · **Joined:** Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:48 pm **Posts:** 1

pokepalm wrote:

Yes, I also encountered the first problem when clicking Show Desktop and moving a file. It happened when I use Nexus for sure. What shall I do?

same here :-/
(Hide Windows taskbar and Hide desktop icons both disabled)

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12285

Please answer the following questions:

1. When you encounter this problem, are you moving the file from the dock to the desktop, the desktop to the dock, or re-arranging the icons on the desktop?

2. Do you have the dock set to Always On Bottom, Normal Z-Order or Always on Top?

3. In the Advanced dialog of the Behavior tab of Nexus Preferences (or Dock Properties dialog for that dock if you are running Xtreme or Nexus Ultimate), is 'Popup dock on mouse over' enabled?

4. Exactly how are you showing the desktop? Does the same thing happen if you use WIN+D to show the desktop?

5. What version of Windows?

6. What version of the Nexus dock?

Thanks,

pericopalotes · **Joined:** Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:50 pm **Posts:** 1

Same problem here.

I have tested all options you mention (and many others) but the problem persists.

Very Bad Bug for a very nice soft

winstep · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:30 pm **Posts:** 12285

How about replying to my questions in the previous post, then, please?

zzzz · **Joined:** Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:36 pm **Posts:** 1

winstep wrote:

This will prevent the dock from coming forward when it's behind another window and you bump the associated screen edge. The edge bump will still work if the dock is hidden, though.

I also would like to disable edge bump when dock is hidden/corner option is selected.

Reason: I used my previous dock that way and it was very handy when taskbar was moved to top. It is very easy to accidentally activate dock by moving it to top/left/right/bottom edge with normal work. Corner activation makes it harder.

If such an option would be implemented i would for sure buy premium version.

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