Hi there,

I am a real fresh user of Nexus Ultimate using it on Windows 10 x64 and ran into my first little problems.

1. On a dock at the bottom I want to show shortcuts and running apps separately, i.e. when I launch an app from the shortcuts, there should be a separate icon of it on the other side of the dock showing me that the app is running. I cannot for whatever reason make Nexus save this setting permanently. Each time I unload and open up Nexus again, the app is not shown separately and setting has been reset.
2. Can I transfer the running applications to the left side of a dock (rather than the right one, as it is standard)? I didn't find any settings for this.
3. I have all updates for Windows and Nexus installed, but I ran into the fatal Access Violation Error described here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9772 . Shouldn't that be already fixed by now, since the topic suggests Microsoft has released a patch for it?


All the best & thanks in advance

Froschfinger

Confirmed, fixed for next release.



No. Any particular reason why you would want to do this?



Yes.

Under what conditions do the Access Violation errors you have been experiencing happen? Do they happen every time you try to delete *any* item from the dock, for instance?

Anyway, Merry Xmas!!!

Yes, just a matter of taste and habit. I am a former ObjectDock user gotten annoyed of all the bugs and missing support, and used to have one dock at the bottom with running tasks on the left and shortcuts on the right side of the dock. I just love it that way, and it is logical for me in a left-to-right language country to have it on the left side (more attention, easier to find) rather than on the right.



I didn’t get it anymore so far, deleting an item worked just a minute ago. I will report in once it occurs again .


Best

froschfinger

As already stated in the other thread, Nexus now remembers my settings.

Still, would you think it a viable option to add settings to put the running apps to the left of a dock? It is really a bit of a hassle for me to always find my running apps somewhere on the right, it is much more userfriendly on the left side .

Also a few little things I realised while using Nexus Ultimate a bit more:

1. Sometimes the clock docklet jumps like a madman and doesn’t seem to want to stop. When I restart Nexus it is fine. Is there a reason for that? Does it have to do with data from the internet or something?

2. I can neither left- nor right-click the owncloud app which sits in the system tray, meaning I have to shut down Nexus in order to access it. Can you confirm that? All other systray apps launch on double-click and show their context menus on right-click very politely.

3. The system tray doesn’t refresh immediately when an icon gets added to it, there is a delay of maybe 5-10 seconds. Is there a knob I can tweak for that somewhere in the settings? EDIT: Found the settings again, already had the real time refreshing option for systray icons ticked.

4. Pardon me for referring to your competitor, still there is a behaviour in ObjectDock I loved a lot in order to have an overview of which particular window I am just dealing with. It’s actually two bits of behaviour for running apps:
a) When having a maximised window, the dock represents the app with its app icon, like a normal shortcut. When minimised, the icon animatedly switches to a screenshot with the small app icon on the right bottom of the screenshot (just the way Nexus shows running apps by default). Can that be set somewhere in the settings, or is that new in terms of requests ?
b) There was a setting that let me determine whether I want running apps of the same kind (i.e. three instances of Google Chrome and the likes) show grouped or separately. Again, is there a tick I missed in the settings or is it just not possible to choose that? EDIT: I just found it in the main settings.

And again, thanks for your effort, I hope posts like these do not eat up all your time to actually develop - and you stay as positive as you introduced yourself to me .

Actually, it's not.

There is a reason why even the original MacOSX dock placed running/minimized applications/documents on the right side.

There is one thing called muscle memory: your body gets used to things being on a particular place on the screen, or in a particular order. The list of running applications is dynamic, it grows and shrinks as you run and close programs. Shortcuts you actually add to the dock, however, do not, once you have your dock setup the way you like it, they tend to remain on fixed positions.

If the list of running applications was at the left of the dock, as you suggest, the position of the fixed shortcuts would be constantly jumping around.

Besides this very valid reason, there are other reasons related to performance that make placing running apps at the right of the dock a much better option.



You mean it plays for a while whatever is currently selected as the 'Attention' effect?

Yes, it will do this when it's connecting to the Internet to sync your PC's clock with the Internet time servers. You can turn it off if you don't like it by disabling 'Glow when updating' in Clock Prefs.

When you start Nexus the clock will go through a list of time servers to figure out which one is closest/fastest, and this takes some time. After that it will stick to whatever server it came up with in the first round, so the next time it tries to sync the clock it should stop blinking/jumping around a lot sooner.

The new version actually helps a bit with this: previously the clock would hit the time servers immediately after starting up, now it only does it on schedule (i.e.; every 24 hours by default).



Yeah, seems a handful of apps have a problem with tray icon clicking. I will have to look at this - it is for sure related to the different versions of the API used for getting an icon on the tray.



I don't see that here. Are you saying that it still takes 5-10 seconds to update even with the real time refreshing option enabled?



I know ObjectDock does this. For me it doesn't make much sense other than a 'window is minimized' indicator (and for obvious reasons stops working as such when windows are grouped together).

Nexus always shows you a 'snapshot' of the actual window (unless you turn that option off), which should help you recognize the window at a glance regardless of it being minimized or not - for me, the true advantage of showing snapshots of the actual windows as icons.

Well, I don’t know how MacOS handles this, as I truly dislike anything Apple, but I find the user friendliness highly debatable. I 'suffer' from my own muscle memory, as I am used to find my running apps on the left side. I just know where to find them, but don’t do so on Nexus so far.
When it comes to readability, left-aligned text is always prefered in our cultural circle. We are reading left-to-right, and more important than an evenly spaced line is to be able to find anchors in the text in order to get to the next line. By having different locations where your line ends, you more easily find to the next line. However, the 'anchor' on the left side (all lines begin at the same location) coninscides with the direction of reading, so you e.g. put important things on the left side, where we begin our reading (that's why the logo is on the upper left side on most websites). For me, on the dock with my running apps, the running apps are the most important thing on the dock, and I expect to find them where my dock 'starts'. And I always easily found them before I used Nexus . That is why I would love an option to put them to the left side of my dock.



Exactly that, changed it to stop jumping (attention effect), thanks a bunch .



Is there anything that can be done about it? EDIT: Alright, misread it, thank you for investigating :* .



Yes, I do. I can try it out with every program sending an icon to the tray, like MusicBee, Nylas N1, Steam and other apps. It is actually more like 20—30 seconds until icons appear. Immediate appearance is ticked, yes.



For me, as long as I don’t use grouped icons, which I don’t, it pretty much makes sense . And yes, this being an indicator of a minimised window is exactly what I love about it, hehe . You know, it seems not everything you or I, respectively, consider useful or useless is that way for everybody else. Still, I understand why you think it the better way, even though I prefer it differently .