1. weather module with transparency randomly(maybe when transitioning from opaque to traslucent) regains full opacity:
- tried with 'make opaque on mouse-over' on and off, tried bout realistic and cartoon icons, different transparency values, and 'glow when updating' on and off
-harder to reproduce when both 'make opaque on mouse-over' and 'glow when updating'

2. recycler module icon (both in dock/shelf and desktop module) doesn't change from full to empty (stuck on full)
- not sure how to reproduce this one, tried resetting nexus and resetting custom windows icons for recycle bin

3. when reinstalling and loading old settings shelf in-shelf dock skins aren't loaded properly (unlighted_ns theme for the shelf and custom skin for in-shelf docks), the problem doesn't appear (or not as often) when you load different backups after you set up the skins
- make a shelf with in shelf docks and or standalone docks
- change dock skins to custom skin
- backup settings
- reinstall (*or reset nexus/load a different backup without those docks)
- load backup settings
= in shelf docks and some standalone docks will have wrong skins (often tiles instead of theme) despite theme folder having exactly same structure
- unreliable workaround: *sometimes repeated reloading of the backup will set the right dock skin/theme

Winstep Xtreme 15.7, windows 7,64 bit

15.7? Why 15.7? Current version is 15.9 and tomorrow will be 16.2.

Problem with running old versions and reporting bugs for those is that I have been making A TON of changes to old code lately. Chances are the bug might have been fixed already (on purpose or accidentally lol) and we just end up on a wild goose chase.



Only the weather module? Anyway, this is a perfect example: module routines in v16.2 were almost completely re-written.



Hmmm, and how many files/size of files in the recycle bin is the module reporting?



You mean restoring a backup that points to skins that haven't been re-installed yet? Or did I get that wrong?

because of another bug in 15.9/16.2 that i reported in another place



will update again to test oput this bugs if you need



only the weather module out of the modules that i use(clock/cpu/ram/net meters/email) although i haven't used opaque on mouseover for them, trying now



none, no text even with skins where i suppose there should be some



no, after reinstalling skins, or after a reinstall without deleting the skins
sometimes after reinstall winstep doesn't recognize the skins, i have to reimport them from zip (although they are in the correct location and program recognizes so when importing and asks if i want to overwrite- maybe a separate bug)

but the bug happens no matter if winstep recognizes/lists the skins. it also hapens if you restore to an older backup without the dock and then again to the backup with the dock

also a bug that i just noticed, sometimes when changing settings for different modules, then applying ram and cpu meter size is reset to 100% even though the settings for those modules weren't touched

Ok, some info that might explain this:

When there are a lot of files in the recycle bin (and some users have thousands or even hundreds of thousands) the Windows API call that returns the number of files and their sizes takes a VERY VERY long time to return (which is understandable). In the mean time, it blocks the calling thread.

So, to prevent the main application from stalling while Windows is processing that call, I resorted to using an external executable, Winstep.exe (this helper executable serves a multitude of purposes, this is one of them).

So, when the main application needs to know how many files there are in the recycle bin and their sizes, instead of doing it itself (and blocking) it signals winstep.exe. Winstep.exe in turn returns the results to the main application once it got them - this way the main application does not stall even if the user has a full recycle bin.

Now, there is another issue too: Winstep applications are the type of applications that are always running and are typically set to run automatically at startup.

Startup is a very busy time for the system: everything is loading at the same time, most of it usually from the same hard disk.

Now imagine if the Winstep application loads in the middle of the startup process and the first thing it does is get the number of files in the Recycle Bin on a system with thousands of deleted files: what is already an extremely heavy task in terms of hard disk usage suddenly just got an order of magnitude worse: now it's directly competing with another hard disk intensive task. Startup slows down to a crawl and users go ape sh*t.

To prevent this, the main application waits at least 30 seconds after starting up to get the number of files in the recycle bin. During this time, the Recycle Bin module will not report anything in terms of files in the recycle bin and their sizes (although it should accurately reflect empty or full states).

Now, recently I noticed something else happening: our cracker friends decided to patch winstep.exe. Only, as it usually happens with these things, they got it wrong and broke the ability of the Recycle Bin to report the number of files and their sizes.

I discovered this when a joker, claiming to be using a trial version of Nexus Ultimate, asked for support on this issue. The problem for him (and the reason he got blown off) is that Winstep does not make trials of Nexus Ultimate available to the public.

I don't mind - at all - giving support to users of the free version of the Nexus dock, but giving support to someone who is running a cracked copy of a Winstep application and still has the nerve to ask for help?! Are you kidding me?! lol That seriously injures my sense of justice.

updated, results as follow:
shelf hiding bug/ delay persists

transparency incosistency bug/delay persits although randomly. sometimes its easily trigered by moving the module across screen ( after being dropped module remains opaque);affected modules are weather, recycrel and email checker, though not with equal frequency



none, no text even with skins where i suppose there should be some
my recyle bin was empty/ few files for testing. but after reseting my windows recycle bin icons to defaults, reseting winstep to default settings, restarting, then changing windows icons back, and THEN reloading my winstep settings module works even though it has slight delay between emptying recycle bin and changing the icon

i hav been using your dock since i bought my windows 7 laptop 2 years ago and rocketdock didnt serve me as well as it did on my xp netbook

i tried extrime then, liked it but couldnt afford it, but since i saw on froum that there is a chance to earn a free licence by updating translations i decided to try it out again as i liked the shelf and multiple docks a lot and i prefer not to run multiple dock programs at the same time, both resource wise and aesthetics wise

Since enabling opaque on mouseover on all modules, i have noticed the same behaviour in all of them, its a bit random, and often goes away on its own in a short while sometimes it lingers longer

16.2 (beta) specific bugs
1 Fade in animation works for icons, but not for sub docks
2 Colorize with dominant color of desktop background is stuck on redish color, no matter what the wallpaper is and persists trough reinstall

Now it's a bit too late since the official release is tomorrow ehehe. But, always better late, than never.

Anyway, haven't tested that one yet.



Seems to be working fine here? Mind you, wallpaper color hot-track is fixed to that of the current wallpaper in the Theme Preview panels.

Working on changing that, if I still manage on time.

another 16.2 late bug:

Lookup IP Address internal comand if placed on the shelf just flickers to fast to see the results, where in from dock it stays until closed

also cd control 'sorry, unable to load media on drive E:(4/1)' error still appears (workself exe version 16.02.1106, ws update 16.02.0157, winstep 15.09.0076, both dlls 1.01.0000)

yup, that was it, hawe a slideshow walppapers

Gotcha, thanks!



That means your CD Drive does not support the Load Media command (IOCTL_STORAGE_LOAD_MEDIA).

What type of CD Drive is it? I guess some CD drives (e.g.; some laptop models are not able to automatically load in the tray, it needs to be manually pushed in).

its a laptop dvd drive
one drive, 2 drivers:
Device Description KDENS KPQNW9UBC SCSI CdRom Device
Device Description MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ8E1 ATA Device

it does seem to lack the comand to close, it just can be ejected from windows explorer