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 Post subject: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:03 pm 
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Hi Jorge,

I can crash Nextstart (v16.6 running on Win7) by triple-clicking menu items for certain 'system' folders (Control Panel & Printers are two examples). Continuing through to the submenu and selecting an item doesn't cause a crash and triple-clicking document folders in the menus opens them in Explorer as expected. I've noticed this for a while now but I'd been running such an old version (v12.2 I think) I didn't bother reporting it.

It's only a nuisance issue that I guess you can take care of in the 'v17 with integrated Themebuilder' release you've promised before Christmas.

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:09 pm 
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Hi Pete! :)

Crashes happen only with the shell virtual folders then, right?

What version of Windows are you running?

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:16 am 
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A couple more questions:

1. Which theme are you using? Does it make a difference?

2. Which menu opening animation? Does it make any difference if you set it to none?

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:31 pm 
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Albert Einstein:
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"

Possibly why every creative person keeps plugging away hoping they will get somewhere..

Seriously though, until it is fixed, go into your mouse settings and slow the double-click speed down. It's not a fix but it will remove the likliehood of triple clicks more in the meantime.

As you were :)


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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:01 pm 
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Jorge,

Win7 with Darktech theme. Crashes in all themes I tried (got through 4 and decided it wasn't a theme issue).

But - I'd menu animation on slide right, changed it to none as suggested and now all works fine. So it's fixed for me. Slide right must be the default, I didn't actually set it and I am happy to run without an animation.

Bassdudenz- I'm not insane, just stupid :) . I use triple-click all the time on document folders and on the rare occasion I decide to open the printers folder (say) on reflex I do the same, crash Nextstart and then remember that I know that's what happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:17 pm 
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BassdudeNZ wrote:
It's not a fix but it will remove the likliehood of triple clicks more in the meantime.


He is actually triple-clicking on purpose. :)

NextSTART is able to display folders as menus. These folders can be physical (i.e.; a folder in your hard drive, e.g.; C:\TEMP\) or virtual (e.g.; My Computer, Control Panel, Printers, etc...).

Triple clicking a folder entry in a NextSTART menu makes NextSTART open the folder in Windows Explorer instead of displaying it as a sub-menu.

The problem is that by the time you click for the third time NextSTART is already in the process of showing the menu, and that process must now be aborted so an Explorer window is shown instead.

Apparently Peter was experiencing problems (which I am still unable to reproduce here) at this stage, and it is somehow related to the menu opening animation.

Peter Baker wrote:
But - I'd menu animation on slide right, changed it to none as suggested and now all works fine. So it's fixed for me. Slide right must be the default, I didn't actually set it and I am happy to run without an animation.


Still wasn't able to reproduce here, but at least those are two big clues to help me diagnose the issue: only happens with virtual folders, and has something to do with the menu opening animation.

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:30 pm 
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Peter Baker wrote:
But - I'd menu animation on slide right, changed it to none as suggested and now all works fine. So it's fixed for me. Slide right must be the default, I didn't actually set it and I am happy to run without an animation.


Pete, still unable to reproduce here on a Windows 7 system. I tried different menu animation speed settings, opening the virtual folder from the main menu and from a sub-menu... whatever I tried, no crashes.

Perhaps it's related to how fast your system/CPU is?

I know for you it's as good as fixed, but could you please help me in trying to figure out what could be causing this? e.g.; enable the menu animations again then try different animation speed settings, etc...

Also, when it crashes, does the Explorer window open or does it crash before that happens? Do you still get to see the virtual folder sub-menu opening before the crash? Does it happen with *all* virtual folders or only specific ones?

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 Post subject: Re: Crashing Nextstart
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:16 pm 
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Hi Jorge,

Not sure how useful this will be but tested on all my systems (oldest to newest, probably slowest to fastest as well).

Win7 NS v11.6 - crashes with and without animation.
Win10 NS v11.6 - crashes with animation, fine without
Win7 NS v16.6 - crashes with animation, fine without

When it crashes it doesn't appear to have launched explorer - there is no sign of a window being opened in any of the cases.

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