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 Post subject: Digital Clock Module on Desktop
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:18 am 
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Just installed Winstep Extreme on my Windows 10 media centre, and am blown away with the quality :D . It looks amazing on my 70" panel! I looked high and low through google and came across some info here on the forum that suggests there is not a digital clock module for the desktop, unless the author of the skin specifically wrote one. Seems like a bit of a shortcoming given all the other amazing features. A short workaround I've found is to simply create a new dock and remove all items except a digital clock icon, then increase the size suite your desktop.

I possibly have missed something still?? and there is an easier way to get a digital clock on the desktop?

PS: Didn't hesitate to purchase license!

Cheers, Hubba


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 Post subject: Re: Digital Clock Module on Desktop
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:36 pm 
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Thanks for the thumbs up, and for the screenshot.

As you read and I explained elsewhere, desktop modules are free form and defined by the current skin/theme. They do share some properties with their 'icon' equivalents, but their shape is usually different (unless the theme author did not include a skin for that module, in which case the desktop module would use the same shape as its icon equivalent).

Icon modules have two styles/looks, desktop modules, however, only have one look. As such, they might take 'hints' from the currently selected style for that particular module, but that is as far as it goes.

Otherwise, if a user selected the digital style for the clock icon module, from then on the desktop clock module would never again change shape regardless of what theme the user switched to, simply because no theme has a 'digital clock' skin for the clock desktop module.

Now, perhaps there is something I can do to work around this: when you right click a desktop module, one of the options in the context menu is 'Theme'. This opens a menu displaying all themes that include skins for that desktop module, and allows you to, for instance, apply a specific theme only for that module.

First I thought that I could add the two basic styles (e.g.; <Digital> and <Analog> for the clock module, <Histogram> and <Gauge> for the net/ram/cpu meter modules, etc...) as 'virtual' themes right at the top of that menu.

If the user then selected one of those virtual themes, the desktop module would then assume the shape and style of its icon equivalent.

On the other hand doing it like this could create even more confusion because this 'basic version' of desktop modules could then have a different style from their icon equivalent.

So, instead of two virtual themes based on style, I could simply add '<No theme>' or something like that to the top of the Themes context menu. In that case, the desktop module would assume the shape and style currently selected for their icon equivalents.

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 Post subject: Re: Digital Clock Module on Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:14 am 
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hubba wrote:
I possibly have missed something still?? and there is an easier way to get a digital clock on the desktop?


Ok, for next release I added a '(None)' option to the top of the 'Themes' right click context menu of each module. Selecting 'None' means no theme is applied for that module, in which case the module (both the iconic and the Desktop versions) assumes the default look for the currently selected style.

In other words, the Desktop version of the module will look just like the iconic version. So, if you have the style of the clock module set to Digital and select 'None' as the current clock theme, then the Desktop version of the clock module will appear as a digital clock. You can then adjust its size using the module scaling feature.

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 Post subject: Re: Digital Clock Module on Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:47 am 
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Dare I say after working with 9.5 in tandem with 16.9 that the builder that came in 9.5 gave the end-user the facilty to override any designer settings and bypass Bitmaps so they could technically use the Default digital clocks even if the designer had done analog designsand disabled standard non-bitmap settings....[and much more of course].

Technically, any designer can design a digital clock as a docklet and put the text inside the dock. The only issue is the split LED so familiar with real digital clocks that may not be so easy to do at design level within the current facilty of the program to use animations [hint-hint] [animation]
A few designers have done their own and some are great.


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