I really did not wish to create an entire new thread for this.
perhaps it might be worthwhile considering creating a sub-topic "Winstep issues and questions?" I noticed how many of issues and questions there are under multiple individual threads.

ANYWAY

I acknowledge before asking that it may well be my inability to find the correct location for this before I ask.
QUESTION: Is there a setting somewhere that I have missed that allows use per user in Windows? For example, I have Winstep Xtreme and Nexus Ultimate on one computer. When User 1 logs in they get Nexus Ultimate only and when User 2 logs in they only get Winstep Xtreme? (It's fun with BETA's, I have to rename the executable in one of them).

I apologise if this is a dumb question. I found the only way was to turn 'automatically start with Windows' off on both which is becoming tedious to manually start every time and I accept it is possibly my lack of knowing where the correct settings are .

Hello BassdudeNZ...
From what I understand, you're installing Winstep Xtreme and Nexus Ultimate. There's no point, because Winstep Xtreme already includes Nexus Ultimate with all its features, so installing Winstep Xtreme gives you access to all the functionalities (Nexus Ultimate, Workshelf, NextSTART, Modules, Winstep Start Menu Organizer Pro). Installing both would essentially give you two versions of Nexus Ultimate, which might explain the problems you're experiencing.

Anyway, that's just my opinion...

Eh?! What Picco said.

If Xtreme is also installed just DELETE nexus-ultimate.exe from C:\Program Files (x86)\Winstep, do NOT uninstall it as that will remove things from Winstep Xtreme too.

Also, all Winstep applications store settings *per-user*.

Yes, *Settings*. Alas, not themes - would be at least as useful!

No it wouldn't. It would just be wasteful.

OK Jorge already knows the background so your answer Jorge, surprises me.

In Bullet points:

1. Nexus Ultimate runs on my DAW Studio login and I do NOT want Winstep Xtreme running on that login. I did tell you this. And you reckon I ignore you? lol - The main login needs to be as memory free as possible. Nexus Ultimate fits this fine as it uses very little and workshelf is disabled. I only use Nexus. Ultimate is great because it allows multiple Nexus docks light on memory and convenient. Free version does not.

2. It is ultra widescreen with a 5120x1440 resolution.

3. I test multiple drives with Winstep Modules to make sure they scale (It can have up to 26 the way it is configured and has multiple nVme's onboard and plenty of external drives). It also has 128GB RAM and a decent Radeon GPU.

4. I have ANOTHER login which I have told Jorge more than once which is Winstep only purely for the purpose of testing so it does not fuckup my Studio login. I also told him I needed to remove Rocketdock which was good and Nexus Ultimate fitted better, faster and nicer. Which Jorge also knows?


5. I am happy to uninstall Winstep on my DAW computer if you wish and not test so screw the user with more than four drives which I do not have on the others and sorry, I will not have either. I won't be fucking up the only computer that generates any kind of income, sorry. This was for people who download themes I do. I stand to get nothing from any theme I create other than repayment for kindness, which I believe when reuploading is done, is paid in full. I was only considering users who have more than four drives ensuring they scale as intended, but fuck it now. At least i can upload all quickly now and be done with it.

There you go. Annoyed? yeah, a little because I already told you Jorge and have the emails telling you as much. Old story cliche - "I can fuckup and make an ass of myself by myself, I really do not need anyone's help". So if you wish to try and make me look stupid which I am definitely not, do it in your own time please.
Later.. I may upload and not come back this time I do not need this shit, I am too old and too intolerant for it.

Oh fer Christ sake!! Feel better after that rant?! Hope so.

I already told you your use is atypical.

For 99.9999% of users out there having per-user data makes zero sense and would just be wasteful- or running Nexus Ultimate in one user account and Winstep Xtreme in another (not to mention you can basically turn Winstep Xtreme into Nexus Ultimate by disabling the stuff you don't want via the same settings that are stored per user, and disabled stuff does not consume resources).

Users can make suggestions and I will listen to them and I may agree or may not, but getting upset because I say "No" or assuming a No means anything else is just silly... come on!

I suggest things for your themes but you don't see me getting upset because you didn't follow my suggestions, do you? To each, his own.

I might have said something stupid in my previous post, and if so, I'm really sorry, but I didn't understand the rest of the discussion or BassdudeNZ's rant. I don't really see what the problem is.
Can someone explain?
I'm completely lost!

I get what you mean Jorge. However, I had something different in mind, in that the principal Winstep user/license holder would assign only certain themes to other users. This way, I could have e.g. in my normal user account all the themes I might normally use, and in a second user account for theme development only those themes relevant to the current project. (Aside from theme development per se, I sometimes use Xtreme also for purposes of GUI design studies.) Besides, makes sense to me in that per user themes would prevent e.g. family/kids messing up the main user's themes. Which has been known to happen.

Nah, nothing stupid Picco, what you said was right on the button. It's just that I don't think BassdudeNZ quite grasped what was said and implied and threw a bit of a wobbly as we say - a bit of a temper tantrum.

Whoa! Slow, deep breaths @BassdudeNZ. No point throwing all your toys out of the pram. It's clear to me that you didn't read both Picco's and Jorge's replies properly and didn't grasp the implications properly before flying off the handle. The gist of it was that it's nonsensical to run both Xtrreme and Ultimate as the latter is alreaddy present in the former, and all you have to do is disable the non-Ultimate parts, and you're down to just running Ultimate. As such, it really wouldn't make any sense at all to have this on a per user basis.

Just cool down and thinkk about it with a clear head.

There is no problem and you didn't say anything stupid, you told the truth, Winstep Xtreme can be turned into Nexus Ultimate in terms of behavior and resource usage simply by disabling some stuff, and you can do that already because what you enable or disable is on a per-user base (settings already are per-user).

Besides per-user settings, BassdudeNZ also wanted per-user themes and doesn't realize how wasteful that would be for the vast majority of cases (nor the tech implications of such a thing, which I did not bother to explain because there was no need).

I think he is tired, because he either did not understand my reply or decided to throw a temper tantrum after getting a "No".

That would still NOT be per-user themes. Just a sort of "Winstep Admin" access control, and Winstep applications do not support that.

To implement that you also have to implement password access to Preferences, what context menus show and what not, blah blah blah. A huge can of worms and something only worth implementing if a big corporation offers you a gazillion dollars to do so in the first place.

There are many other, much more useful in a general sense, fish to fry.

LOL! Yes, a right can of worms/Pandora's Box! Oh well, I'll just have to live with a gazillion themes in both accounts. Or of course, an alternative just occurred to me! I could use one laptop as the main, general use one, and the other for playing around with themes.... So could just have minimal themes in the latter, as and when required.