ok, that makes sense, but somewhere this causes it to crash

Question: do any of you having that weird systray problem have the Windows taskbar set to auto-hide?

No.

Damn.

In the mean time I have figured out what causes the system systray icons to disappear in Vista: it's the PrintWindow API function that is unreliable and sometimes fails to paint both the notification area *and* the system notification area. When that happens, the place where the system notification area would be becomes all black and is therefore rendered transparent. This one will be a bit of a PITA to fix.

Ok, I believe I fixed the problem of the system notification icons (volume, network, battery, etc...) sometimes disappearing in Vista.

As for the other problem, I'm still at a loss, but from what I gathered it is WB related, right?

Yes. If the WB taskbar is large or higher than normal, you will have various problems.

My issue appears to be different. I'm running XP, WB and WS. I've no startbar with the systray running as a standalone button in the corner. I've no issue with the icons in the systray (though they can be slow to refresh on changes) but the systray icon itself is clipped (and I've never had anything in the systray cause a crash). I deliberately set a coloured border on the icon to test this and it doesn't appear - in fact the icon itself is visibly smaller than the tray icons. I'm sure I changed something in WB a some point that made the tray area larger and the systray icon grew to match, though the coloured border appeared in the middle as a 16x16 would and the outer area matched the central icon colour. Unfortunately I can't remember what I did to get this so can't replicate.
Again - this is all for info. I don't think its a WS issue, its a WB issue and its a minor nuisance, not a real problem. I wouldn't want Jorge to break off from working on the VDM module he's adding to the next release to worry about it.

Pete

Y'know, I've been wondering about that systray icon lately as I only
recently noticed that it is smaller than the tray icons.
This seems to only be the case when the systray is set to transparent
background.

In my case and current theme there's a logo (the icon) sitting on top
of a tile. The tile seems to be exactly the same size as the icon. Both
together are smaller than the tray icons.
However, when I turn off the transparent background the systray icon
appears to look the same size as the tray icons and the tile has
expanded (to match the rest of the systray's background).

I wonder why things shrink when transparent background is set.

Regarding WB I couldn't find any settings that are systray-related.

Very minor nit I find to annoy myself.

Marc

Guys, if you only knew how complicated it is to hack the systray...!

As if it weren't complicated enough, the routine that does this also has to catter for different Windows versions (from Win95 all the way up to Vista - and now Win7, as that version too made changes to the systray).

Anyway, yes, a transparent systray will have a systray button that is 4 pixels smaller than a non-transparent systray. This is because with a non-transparent systray, the systray background must be visible, 2 pixels above the systray icons, and 2 pixels below. When the systray is transparent, only actual systray icons (16x16) need to be shown.

As for that WB problem being present in Vista but not on XP, this is because Vista has, in practice, two systrays (i.e. two toolbar windows inside a single container window). To simplify things, instead of handling each toolbar window individually (as I do in XP since there is only one), I handle their container window instead. Of course, if WB skins the container window, this can become larger and affect the systray in NextSTART as well.

I'm always afraid to change code in the systray manager routine because the whole thing is sooo complicated that it is hanging by strings. A wrong move there and systray handling can break under XP but not Vista, or under Win9x, or whatever, without me immediately realizing it.

Anyway, I'll see what I can do about this.

I'm happy now I know its a transparent/non-transparent systray causing the icon resize.

Pete

I am having same problem only it is not crashing

Hey Problem resolved it was the WB Skin Called Flash that was causing problem everything now appears to be working correctly. Crossing my fingers