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 Post subject: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:04 am 
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I have just updated to 25.7 but unfortunately that means I can no longer see my System Tray icons. They were there in the previous build. I run ExplorerPatcher, which allowed Nexus to show them.

I can live with an earlier build if that means I can see the icons. So assuming the latest build has changed something that I can't alter, is there somewhere that I can download a previous build? I can't remember which one I was on but I assume it was 24.6 or whatever the last one was.


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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:01 am 
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As you know from Windows 11 22H2 forward Microsoft moved the tray to XAML islands and removed legacy code that still allowed 3rd party applications to access the tray icons.

I added a work-around, a cog icon that would give access to the tray Quick Settings Panel, but that is way less than optimal, as it is not the same as having the major system icons visible, i.e. the net, volume and battery icons.

As a result in v25.7 I added fully functional "clones" of these tray icons. Since it was official that Windows 11 22H2 no longer allowed access to the tray icons, to save CPU cycles I did not even bother trying.

And so I completely forgot about "hacks" such as Explorer Patcher.

Instead of reverting to the previous version, give me a couple of days and I'll come up with a beta that restores access to the system tray icons if Explorer Patcher (or anything like that) is installed.

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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:52 am 
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Ok, should have already fixed it here, I'll let you know as soon as the beta is available for download.

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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:34 am 
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Ok, since you are running Nexus Ultimate, download the v25.8 beta from HERE, exit all running Winstep applications, unzip and run setup.

Please let me know if that fixed the problem of original tray icons now showing despite ExplorerPatcher being installed.

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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:59 am 
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It's very good of you to respond so quickly. Thanks for that.

Unfortunately the system tray hasn't appeared. You can see in the screen shot that I still just see the blue dot (the Nexus bar is on the left side).

I've rebooted. And I've tried creating a new dock that shows the system tray, but same outcome. Anything else I should try?


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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
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justposted wrote:
It's very good of you to respond so quickly. Thanks for that.


It is important to provide feedback equally as fast.

If I am in the middle of adding stuff to a new release (as I am) I can't simply pause everything waiting for you to reply to know if a fix worked, and there will be times when doing structural changes to the code that it will be unfit to a public release of any type for a while.

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Unfortunately the system tray hasn't appeared. You can see in the screen shot that I still just see the blue dot (the Nexus bar is on the left side).


Yes, I can see it is still using the "replacement" system tray.

justposted wrote:
I've rebooted. And I've tried creating a new dock that shows the system tray, but same outcome. Anything else I should try?


I don't use Explorer Patcher. I assumed that if it was indeed working when the Winstep application queried Explorer about the number of icons in the systray it would return something other than 0.

If it returns 0 the application assumes it is running under a version of Windows 11 that does not allow tray icons to be retrieved anymore (and that Explorer Patcher is not running either) and uses the "clone tray" version instead.

I'll look at the code again to see if I might have done some mistake, but in the mean time please post a screenshot of what your real system tray looks like in the Windows taskbar (together with the tray expansion area, the pop up you get when you click on the blue arrow in the dock and in the up chevron in the taskbar)

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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:15 am 
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It is important to provide feedback equally as fast.


Fair enough. Apologies for being slow. You may have had to move on from this now, but I'll check back in daily for a couple of weeks just in case you are able to fit it in. Holiday season is over now.

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justposted wrote:
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It is important to provide feedback equally as fast.


Fair enough. Apologies for being slow. You may have had to move on from this now, but I'll check back in daily for a couple of weeks just in case you are able to fit it in. Holiday season is over now.

Screenshot of my system tray is here:

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Good to see a Proton VPN (and MAIL?) user here for a change! Well done. 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 7:11 am 
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justposted wrote:
Fair enough. Apologies for being slow. You may have had to move on from this now, but I'll check back in daily for a couple of weeks just in case you are able to fit it in.


Good, since the purpose of betas is to get feedback on new features and fixes lol

I think I figured out at the time what the issue was. Putting the finishing touches on some stuff and should have a new beta ready soon.

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 Post subject: Re: System tray icons disappeared with latest build
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Well that's excellent news. I'll be looking out for that beta. Thanks for not abandoning me for being slow!

@nexter yes, Proton all the way. It isn't perfect, but I
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No worries... but as punishment you will have to help me test the new multi-select feature that allows you to select (and drag & drop) multiple shelf items at once (just make sure to backup your settings first!).

Deal? :D

Nearly finished with it!

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justposted wrote:
Well that's excellent news. I'll be looking out for that beta. Thanks for not abandoning me for being slow!

@nexter yes, Proton all the way. It isn't perfect, but I
like it.

No, perfect it certainly isn't, alas. Especially not if like me you're a - mainly/85-95% of time - Linux user! :evil: But, it's the only secure, fully private, open source software available at present. (The prices are starting to get a bit rich, too.)

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