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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:17 pm 
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Makes sense to tidy things up and leave the drive mod for next time. :) Also good news re: the Themes Gallery - it's been waiting long enough! ;) Hope it'll be OK bandwidth wise when it goes live.

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 9:13 pm 
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nexter wrote:
Hope it'll be OK bandwidth wise when it goes live.


Yeah, that is my main fear too.

There are enforceable daily download limits, you must be logged in to download and that requires you to create an account in the forums, so perhaps this is enough to keep bandwidth usage under control.

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:54 am 
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winstep wrote:
nexter wrote:
Hope it'll be OK bandwidth wise when it goes live.

Yeah, that is my main fear too.

There are enforceable daily download limits, you must be logged in to download and that requires you to create an account in the forums, so perhaps this is enough to keep bandwidth usage under control.

Hmm, I wouldn't bet on it. :( Always best to err on the side of caution and set fairly conservative limits. And if there's a sudden flood of account creations, you know you're in trouble... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:30 am 
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New final betas, need feedback ASAP:

Nexus free beta:
https://www.winstep.net/nexus-beta.zip

Nexus Ultimate beta:
https://www.winstep.net/ultimate-beta.zip

Winstep Xtreme beta:
https://www.winstep.net/xtreme-beta.zip

This is a beta and MUST be installed ON TOP of a full v25.7 or later installation. Do NOT uninstall anything first, just exit all running Winstep applications and run the beta setup file.

There is no need to backup your settings first, but it does not hurt if you do either.

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Nexter, I need you to let me know ASAP if the new beta solves the crashes you mentioned when trying out themes.

Everyone else, I need you to look for problems if possible with stuff related to going into a game and exiting, switching between different multi-monitor configurations (i,e, making sure the multi monitor profiles are working as intended) and stuff staying where it should when the PC returns from sleep, etc (i.e. making sure the reserved screen areas are operating properly).

Also, to get to the new tab colorization feature: Shelf Properties -> Appearance tab -> Tab Color Settings button. Remember the effect depends on the theme and colorization method applied (and on some themes - such as DarkTech for instance, since the tabs are actually transparent - it will have no apparent effect).

This as usual is going to be a very fast final beta (sorry!) since I want to release v25.9 still in September, so I need feedback as soon as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
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I'll try to fit it in later today or tonight, Jorge. :)

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 6:46 am 
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1. Tab colour settings for inactive tabs works on a low percentage of my installed themes (about 3 out of 17), although active tab colourisation works on more.
2. You have to play between the different colourisation methods to see what works best for a particular theme (as mentioned above, most of which only work on the active tab). Tone monochrome bitmaps seems to work the most, but not always.
3. No crashes observed while switching / testing themes.
4. The double click issue is still present.
5. Doesn't appear to be any problems with my multi-monitor use - but have not changed profiles (as what I have works for me).
6. Entering / exiting games appears to work fine.
7. Multi-select / delete appears to now work on the Recovery Shelf. Out of interest though - if you select multiple items across different grid stacks / launch pads, only the items in the displayed area are selected for deletion. This means that if you move away from say a grid stack after selecting an item, to another grid stack / launch pad where nothing is selected, then nothing will be deleted. I can see why this is, but it was worth noting.
8. Brief test of multi-select / move functionality appears to work, but I'm afraid I have limited time at the moment.

Will hopefully have a bit more time later.


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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:28 am 
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Thanks, guys! :D

techlobo wrote:
2. You have to play between the different colourisation methods to see what works best for a particular theme (as mentioned above, most of which only work on the active tab). Tone monochrome bitmaps seems to work the most, but not always.


Hue shift retrieves the dominant color of a particular bitmap and then shifts the colors of the whole bitmap so that the dominant color becomes the target color. Whites and blacks are preserved but the shift affects all the other colors too, of course.

Grays, blacks and whites are not really colors, so bitmaps that do not have a dominant color will basically suffer no change.

Tint first turns the bitmap grayscale (all original color information is lost) then applies a kind of color overlay on top of the grayscale bitmap. Everything gets 'tinted" with the target color, except blacks which are not affected.

Tone Monochrome is the only method that actually affects blacks. Black is RGB (0,0,0) and tone monochrome literally adds the RGB of the target color to the colors of the bitmap. This works well if the bitmap is black & white but makes a mess otherwise.

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Out of interest though - if you select multiple items across different grid stacks / launch pads, only the items in the displayed area are selected for deletion. This means that if you move away from say a grid stack after selecting an item, to another grid stack / launch pad where nothing is selected, then nothing will be deleted. I can see why this is, but it was worth noting.


Not sure I am following this, sorry?

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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
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winstep wrote:
Not sure I am following this, sorry?

It was an attempt to state that the operation of deletion only works with the latest selection - which is understandable, even if it doesn't appear so visually.

eg. If I was to select a couple of items across different stacks as shown in image_1 and then try to delete, then the only item(s) selected for deletion are in the latest (or top) stack - as indicated by image_2.

If there is nothing displayed in the latest / top stack (as in image_3), and delete is pressed, then nothing happens.

As I said I can understand the logic behind this, even though it looks as if a number of items are selected on screen.

I'm trying to decide if it would be better to deselect lower stack items if you select an item in a higher stack, in a similar way to deselect of items if switch between tabs on a shelf...?


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 Post subject: Re: So what's next after v25.7 ?
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Ah ok, I think I understand now. The DEL key only has an effect on the Grid Stack that currently has the focus.

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